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Threshtwaite Mouth - mist clinging to a craggy summit above stone walls and snow patches on the rocky slope
Wainwright — Far Eastern FellsAlso a Birkett

Thornthwaite Crag

Thornthwaite Crag at 784m (2,572ft) is one of the most distinctive summits in the Far Eastern Fells, capped by a massive stone beacon — a tall, cylindrical pillar visible from miles around.

784 m
Height
~3.5–4.5 h
Typical time
+2
Bonus Birketts
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Is it worth going? — Today’s conditions & 7-day summit forecast

Modelled guidance for the 784 m summit. Always check the Met Office mountain forecast and MWIS before you set off.

On the summit today (Fri 11 Sep): 11° to 8°C, gusts to 21 mph, 1.3 mm of rain forecast.

Fri 11 Sep
🌦️
11° / 8°
💨 21 mph
🌧 1.3 mm (100%)
Sat 12 Sep
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13° / 8°
💨 48 mph
🌧 28.4 mm (100%)
Sun 13 Sep
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12° / 6°
💨 14 mph
🌧 0.6 mm (62%)
Mon 14 Sep
🌧️
13° / 6°
💨 34 mph
🌧 9.7 mm (100%)
Tue 15 Sep
🌦️
13° / 7°
💨 34 mph
🌧 2.0 mm (89%)
Wed 16 Sep
🌦️
10° / 7°
💨 32 mph
🌧 1.3 mm (78%)
Thu 17 Sep
🌦️
10° / 7°
💨 36 mph
🌧 1.4 mm (92%)

Forecast snapshot from 11 Sep 2026, 08:30 UTC — refreshed nightly and updated live in your browser. Temperatures and gusts adjusted to the 784 m summit altitude via Open-Meteo. Summit conditions are always harsher than the valley — check the professional mountain forecasts before you go.

Thornthwaite Crag at a glance

Thornthwaite Crag

Threshtwaite Mouth - mist clinging to a craggy summit above stone walls and snow patches on the rocky slope
© Lee McCoy

Thornthwaite Crag at 784m (2,572ft) is one of the most distinctive summits in the Far Eastern Fells, capped by a massive stone beacon — a tall, cylindrical pillar visible from miles around. Wainwright described it as one of the most satisfying summits on the High Street range: the views from the beacon encompass the full sweep of the Ill Bell ridge, the Troutbeck valley far below, and across to Windermere. The ascent via Threshthwaite Glen is a classic approach, or it can be reached easily from the High Street plateau. The beacon makes it unmistakeable on the skyline.

Field notes

The only photo I have of this summit had my, and a friend's son in it against the impresive beacon so I can't use it so I've just added a photo of the col, the Threshtwaite Mouth below it it that many will take a break in to get out of the wind before the venture up. The vertical rocks beneath the summit beacon are impressive and the geology curious. There are places to sit amongst the sharp rocks should you prefer to rest up rather than keep going.

Routes up Thornthwaite Crag

Hand-mapped, with GPX to download — full maps further down.

Classifications & hill data

Wainwright
Far Eastern
Birkett
Fellranger
Synge
Nuttall
784 m
Height
2,572 ft
In feet
NY 4314 1005
Grid ref

The short answers

Is Thornthwaite Crag a Wainwright?

Thornthwaite Crag is a Wainwright. It is also on the Birkett list, the Synge list, the Nuttall list and the Fellranger list.

Where do you park for Thornthwaite Crag?

We hold no car park within 2.5 km of the summit, so there is no short walk-in to recommend here. We only look within 2.5 km, measured straight-line: over longer distances a road may cross a pass and the drive bears no relation to the line.

My hikes over Thornthwaite Crag (Strava)

1 logged hike pass over this summit:

Interactive route maps and photos load here for visitors with JavaScript. Data from Strava.

Parking & buses for Thornthwaite Crag

Best parking to hike Thornthwaite Crag

Where we have the data, each parking spot also shows the nearest public toilets and facilities (cafés, pubs, shops).

Middle Dodd, north-east car park (free) — 2.8 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Middle Dodd (0.7 km), Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner (1.0 km), Red Screes (1.3 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Middle Dodd (layby) — 2.9 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Middle Dodd (0.6 km), Red Screes (0.9 km), St Raven's Edge (1.0 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Middle Dodd car park (free) — 2.9 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Middle Dodd (0.7 km), Red Screes (0.9 km), St Raven's Edge (0.9 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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High Hartsop Dodd car park (free) — 3.0 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: High Hartsop Dodd (0.8 km), Middle Dodd (1.3 km), Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner (1.3 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Red Pit (LDNPA, free) — 3.1 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: St Raven's Edge (0.6 km), Red Screes (0.6 km), Middle Dodd (0.8 km). Free (OSM-tagged). Compacted surface (OSM-tagged).
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Positions are approximate — zoom the map to confirm. Lakeland car parks fill before 9am on fine weekends.

Tip: pan and zoom the interactive map at the top of this page to spot other potential parking near your route.

Vehicles are left entirely at their owner’s risk. We list places people park; we cannot vouch for any of them. Judge it on the day: take valuables with you, leave nothing on show, and if a spot feels wrong when you get there, park somewhere else.

Getting to Thornthwaite Crag by bus

The 508 stops at Hartsop, adjacent to road end, 590 m and 28 m of ascent from the start of Hartsop Dodd, Stony Cove Pike, Thornthwaite Crag and Gray Crag. The last bus is 19:51 towards Windermere (508), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 7 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

Stagecoach 508 “Ullswater Bus”
Penrith – Pooley Bridge – Aira Force – Glenridding – Patterdale (summer services continue over Kirkstone Pass to Troutbeck and Windermere)
Catch it from: Penrith · Windermere (summer only)
The key route from Penrith for the Eastern and Far Eastern fells: Helvellyn from Glenridding, Place Fell, the Hartsop fells. The summer Kirkstone extension drops you at the pass for Red Screes and Caudale Moor.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before relying on a last bus.

Hazards on Thornthwaite Crag

Hazard & Incident Information for Thornthwaite Crag

Hazard: Moderate

A high Far Eastern fell crowned by the landmark Thornthwaite Beacon, a tall stone column that is a useful navigation aid up here. The walking on top is easy, but the steep, rough, loose descent to Threshthwaite Mouth is the catch — meandering over crags and damp ledges with two awkward rocky steps — and the fell takes its name from the crags on its western flank. Patterdale Mountain Rescue Team covers this ground.

  • The descent to Threshthwaite Mouth: The path down to the saddle drops steeply over rough crags and damp ledges, with two rocky steps — the second, just above the saddle, is slightly tricky and may need facing in to the rock to down-climb. Loose in places; pick the correct line from the beacon (a grassy route avoids the worst of the scree). Take it slowly, especially when wet.
  • The western crags: The fell is named for the crags on its western side. Keep back from the edge near the summit, particularly in cloud or wind where the broad top gives little warning.
  • Exposure on the high open ground: This is high, exposed ground with little shelter; the beacon aids navigation but in cloud you still need a bearing to choose the right path off. Plan for wind and changeable conditions.
Who should attempt this fell: Thornthwaite Crag is easy on top, but respect the descent to Threshthwaite Mouth: it's steep, loose and crag-strewn with an awkward down-climb near the saddle, so take the better-graded line from the beacon and move carefully, especially in the wet. Keep back from the western crags, navigate by compass in cloud despite the helpful beacon, and treat the steep ground as full winter terrain when iced.

Most common causes: Slips and difficulty on the steep, loose Threshthwaite Mouth descent and its rocky steps · Taking the wrong (looser) line down from the beacon · Walkers straying toward the western crags in poor visibility · Exposure on the high open ground in wind or winter

Local Mountain Rescue: Patterdale Mountain Rescue Team (opens in new tab) · Reviewed 14 Jun 2026

Safety: Hazard guidance compiled from published Mountain Rescue reports and well-documented accident history - editorial background, not a live feed of callouts. Always check current conditions, carry proper navigation equipment, and seek qualified instruction before heading onto the fells. In an emergency, call 999, ask for Police, then Mountain Rescue.

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Navigating Thornthwaite Crag in cloud

Serious in cloud

Walkable ground sits close to a lethal drop — in cloud it’s easy to walk straight onto steep ground. A serious place to be caught in cloud: carry map and compass (or GPS) and know how to use them, or save it for a clear day.

In winter — snow, whiteout, cornices, buried features — every top demands full winter navigation skills whatever its band, and a broad, gentle summit can be the worst place of all. See walking in bad weather and the navigation guide.

How Thornthwaite Crag compares with all 214 — the Clag Index: navigating in cloud. A relative, deliberately cautious guide; the site can’t navigate for you.

Map & nearby Birketts

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap (switch layers top-right). Parking positions are approximate.

Nearest parking: Middle Dodd, north-east car park (free), about 2.8 km from the summit (straight line). Full parking, toilets and bus details are below.

Birketts near Thornthwaite Crag (within 3 km)

These Birkett tops are not Wainwright summits — detour to them on this walk and they are pure profit. Distances are straight-line; allow extra for terrain.

1.9 km WCaudale Moor - John Bell's Banner755 m · Far Eastern
2.6 km ENERough Crag (Riggindale)628 m · Far Eastern

Routes over Thornthwaite Crag

10.0 km · ~832 m ascent · loop · ~3–4.5 h

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Full route guide ↗

A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

20.14 km · ~1029 m ascent · loop · ~5.5–7.5 h

✎️ Walked and described first-hand by Lee — a big mountain day (≈13 miles / ~3,700 ft, 6–8 hours). Start early, carry OS Explorer OL7 and a compass (the eastern ridge walls and fences are vital handrails in mist), and know the escape options.

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⚠️ Warnings: The left-hand ladder stile between Kentmere Pike and Shipman Knotts has a big, almost-vertical drop on the far side — take care, and lift or handle dogs, which often refuse it. Wray Crag on the final descent has a grooved sloping slab: an easy step in the dry, slippery when wet. The initial drop off Ill Bell toward Froswick is steep and rough — you may need hands; it eases quickly. Keep clear of Ill Bell's craggy eastern edge above Kentmere Reservoir — stay on the broad ridge by the cairns. Parking at Kentmere (village hall / St Cuthbert's church) is very limited — only a handful of spaces — so arrive early.

Full route guide ↗

A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

On the hill: terrain and water on Thornthwaite Crag

Water & shelter on the way up

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors, per route — an absent marker doesn’t mean none.

The view from Thornthwaite Crag

The 360° skyline from Thornthwaite Crag

A computed 360° skyline — every visible named top labelled by distance and bearing, from the terrain model in perfect clarity, not photographed. Drag to pan; reveal the far four-nations horizon.

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Computed 360-degree skyline from Thornthwaite Crag36 labelled tops shown (12 distant behind the far-horizon toggle). Theoretical visibility in perfect clarity; computed from terrain, not photographed.eye levelNNEESESSWWNWScafell Pike · 22 kmHelvellyn · 10 kmSkiddaw · 26 kmGreat Gable · 22 kmHigh Crag · 10 kmRaise · 12 kmFairfield · 8 kmBlencathra · 21 kmCrinkle Crags · 19 kmHigh Raise · 4 kmThe Old Man of Coniston · 20 kmSwirl How · 18 kmHarter Fell · 3 kmIll Bell · 2 kmHart Side · 12 kmBowscale Fell · 23 kmDemming Crag · 23 kmMardale Ill Bell · 2 kmThe Knott · 3 kmKentmere Pike · 4 kmGray Crag · 2 kmRest Dodd · 4 kmSelside Pike · 6 kmIngleborough · 47 km · clear daysWhernside · 42 km · clear daysAngletarn Pikes South Top · 5 kmLittle Mell Fell · 14 kmBaystones · 6 kmSour Howes · 7 kmBrunt Knott · 11 kmnameless · 7 kmTroutbeck Tongue · 4 kmBlack Fell · 12 kmMickle Fell · 40 km · clear daysYarlside · 28 kmBurney · 30 kmGreat End · 20 kmBowfell · 19 kmPillar · 26 kmNethermost Pike · 10 kmCatstye Cam · 10 kmDollywaggon Pike · 9 kmStybarrow Dodd · 12 kmRampsgill Head · 3 kmRed Screes · 4 kmHigh Raise · 15 kmRobinson · 24 kmLittle Carrs · 18 kmBranstree · 5 kmWard's Stone · 54 km · clear daysThe Calf · 27 kmSwineside Knott · 11 kmWild Boar Fell · 34 km · clear daysCapple Howe · 7 kmGlenridding Dodd · 9 kmGreat Meldrum · 12 kmSteel Knotts · 8 kmHollow Moor · 7 kmBlake Rigg · 16 kmGummer's How · 22 kmRogan's Seat · 49 km · clear daysClaife Heights · 14 kmBeacon Fell · 25 kmAye Gill Pike · 36 km · clear daysWhite Hill · 57 km · clear daysNewton Fell North · 26 kmCunswick Scar · 17 kmSnowdon · 176 km · a handful of days a yearBroad Law · 117 km · a rare clear dayArenig Fawr · 183 km · a handful of days a yearPendle Hill · 78 km · a rare clear dayMoel y Gamelin · 166 km · a handful of days a yearBoulsworth Hill · 90 km · a rare clear daySighty Crag · 73 km · a rare clear dayWisp Hill · 89 km · a rare clear dayRoan Fell · 83 km · a rare clear dayDun Rig · 123 km · a handful of days a yearBlackwood Hill · 87 km · a rare clear dayBillinge Hill · 109 km · a rare clear day
What you can see from Thornthwaite Crag, by direction
  • North-east: High Raise (4 km)
  • South-west: The Old Man of Coniston (20 km)
  • West: Hart Crag (6 km), Fairfield (8 km), Dollywaggon Pike (9 km), High Crag (10 km), Crinkle Crags (19 km), Crinkle Crags (19 km), Crinkle Crags (19 km), Shelter Crags (19 km), Bowfell (19 km), Crinkle Crags (19 km), Crinkle Crags South Top (19 km), Great End (20 km), Ill Crag (21 km), Broad Crag (21 km), Scafell Pike (22 km), Great Gable (22 km), Scafell (23 km), Pillar (26 km), Black Crag (27 km), Scoat Fell (27 km), Steeple (27 km)
  • North-west: Nethermost Pike (10 km), Catstye Cam (10 km), Helvellyn (10 km), Raise (12 km), White Side (12 km), Stybarrow Dodd (12 km), Great Dodd (14 km), Blencathra (21 km), Gategill Fell Top (21 km), Knowe Crags (21 km), Atkinson Pike (21 km), Skiddaw Lesser Man (24 km), Skiddaw Little Man (24 km), Skiddaw South Top (25 km), Skiddaw Middle Top (25 km), Skiddaw (26 km), Skiddaw North Top (26 km)

On the clearest days the far horizon adds: Snowdon (176 km, Wales), Carnedd Llewelyn (164 km, Wales), Broad Law (117 km, Scotland), Moel Siabod (172 km, Wales), Arenig Fawr (183 km, Wales), Yr Eifl (197 km, Wales), Craig Cwm Silyn (184 km, Wales), Pendle Hill (78 km, England).

Computed from terrain in perfect clarity, not photographed · distances are straight-line.

Computed from Copernicus GLO-30 terrain; distant tops from the Database of British and Irish Hills (opens in new tab) (CC BY 4.0). See how we compute the view · and the summit intervisibility report below.

Sunrise and sunset on Thornthwaite Crag

Thornthwaite Crag sits close to the flat-horizon case. Even on its longest wait of the modelled year (at midsummer) first light is only 16 minutes after almanac sunrise, so the published sunrise time is a fair guide here.

30°40°50°60°70°04:52
Midsummer. The filled shape is the skyline as seen from the summit; the line is the sun’s path. Where they meet is first light — everything left of that point is the wait.
Times for 2026, in Lakeland clock time (GMT in winter, BST in summer) — and model outputs rather than observations.
First lightAlmanac sunriseDifference
Midsummer04:52 BST ±5.0 min04:36+16 min
Equinox06:11 GMT ±5.0 min06:15-4 min
Midwinter08:28 GMT ±5.0 min08:32-4 min

A low, open northern horizon — the ground falls away northwards (mean -0.08°).

Last light — when the sun leaves Thornthwaite Crag

The evening here runs close to the flat-horizon case. Even on its earliest evening of the modelled year (on 1 May) last light is only 4 minutes before almanac sunset, so the published sunset time is a fair guide on Thornthwaite Crag.

The evening of the same three days. A negative difference means a ridge takes the sun before the valley loses it.
Last lightAlmanac sunsetDifference
Midsummer21:50 BST ±5.0 min21:51-1 min
Equinox18:26 GMT ±5.0 min18:25+1 min
Midwinter15:54 GMT ±5.0 min15:48+6 min

Computed, not photographed. First light is the first minute the sun’s upper limb clears this summit’s own skyline and last light the last minute it is still clear of it, both solved against the 360° horizon profile behind The View from Thornthwaite Crag. Almanac sunrise and sunset are the flat-horizon convention. Every time carries a ± band from the 30 m elevation model — it smooths arêtes and cornices, so nothing here claims better than five minutes. These are daylight figures, not a descent plan: the light goes on fading for a good while after the sun leaves, and going down in it is a decision about your own ground and party, not about this table.

What you can see from Thornthwaite Crag

On a clear day — computed sightlines, curvature- and refraction-corrected.
78Wainwrights in view+14 marginal
176 kmFurthest sightlineSnowdon (Yr Wyddfa) · possible under favourable refraction
2Sea in viewIrish Sea, Morecambe Bay

On the clearest days the view reaches across to Wales.

Far horizons
  • Snowdon (Yr Wyddfa) WalesSSW · 176 km clear
  • Carnedd Llewelyn WalesSSW · 160 km clear
  • Irish Sea open waterSW · 68 km in view
  • Ingleborough Yorkshire DalesSE · 48 km clear
  • Whernside Yorkshire DalesSE · 41 km clear
  • Morecambe Bay bay/estuarySSW · 38 km in view
All 78 Wainwrights in clear view (nearest first)

How Thornthwaite Crag’s view compares with all 214 — the View Report: every Wainwright ranked by what you can see from the top.

Sightlines from a bare-earth terrain model (forests and buildings not included), corrected for the Earth’s curvature and average atmospheric refraction. “Distant” sightlines and any over 100 km depend on exceptionally clear air. Modelled from Copernicus GLO-30 open elevation data — a guide to the view, not a guarantee of any single one.

Places to stay near this fell

Other places nearby

Greenbank Farm Bed and Breakfast (opens in new tab) guest house

about 1.8 km from the start, in a straight line

Ranked first despite being the eighth-nearest candidate because it answers more of the 6pm questions than anything else in the radius, and it answers them in its own sentences with prices attached: drying facilities, evening meals from £14.00, packed lunches at £6.00, and the only stated room composition on an independent B&B here. Its family room is a room for three, not four — which is exactly the fact a family of four needs before booking, and the reason a bare family_rooms=yes would have been a worse row than this one.

The farmhouse sits below Arnison Crag and looks across at Place Fell and Angletarn Pikes — the two fells this start's routes climb.

  • Drying room “We also have drying facilities and a large patio and garden to enjoy the view.”
  • Family rooms “Family: Room for three with a double and one single bed.”
  • Evening meal “We offer hearty home-cooked breakfasts and evening meals as well as packed lunches if required.”
  • Packed lunch “Packed Lunches £6.00”

From the Kentmere village start

High Borrans Lodges (opens in new tab) caravan site

about 4.0 km from the start, in a straight line

The lodges stand on High Borrans Farm - 1,000 acres, over 1,200 Swaledale ewes and about 25 beef sucklers, on heather ground around 1,300 feet up that was once shot for grouse. The family took it on in 2007, and if you want to see the lambs in spring you only have to ask.

  • Drying room “A laundry room located in a small stone building at the entrance to the park, containing free to use, washing machines, a dryer and an iron and ironing board”
  • Dogs “High Borrans in Cumbria offers seven bespoke lodges, three being dog friendly and one unique shepherd's hut all designed with couples in mind.”
  • Family rooms “A couples only lodge park, located just 10 minutes away from Windermere in the Lake District.”
  • Children “A couples only lodge park, located just 10 minutes away from Windermere in the Lake District.”

Worth knowing before you book

These places state on their own site that they do not take children.

What each place says about itself, quoted from their own site. We have not stayed at any of them, and there are no prices, no booking and no affiliate links. Distances are straight lines from each route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

Frequently asked questions about Thornthwaite Crag

Is Thornthwaite Crag hard?

The top is easy — open, level walking, and the tall stone beacon is one of the most useful landmarks in the Far Eastern fells for fixing your position. The catch is the descent to Threshthwaite Mouth, which is steep, rough and loose, and is the part of the day people find hardest.

Our shortest round over it, from Hartsop by way of Hartsop Dodd and Stony Cove Pike, is 10.0 km with 832 m of ascent. The Kentmere Horseshoe takes it in over 20.1 km and 1029 m.

Questions drawn from real Google “People also ask” searches; answers written and fact-checked by us. · Reviewed 2026-08-30 · Suggest a question or correction (opens in new tab)

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