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Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

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755 mBirkett — Far Eastern (not a Wainwright summit)+1 bonus Birkett within 3 km

Summit conditions on Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

On the summit on Tuesday 27 October: 10° to 4°C, gusts to 58 mph, 7.9 mm of rain forecast over the whole day, midnight to midnight.

Full 7-day summit forecast ↓

The forecast figures are Open-Meteo’s, worked out for the summit’s height. How we check →

Weather data by Open-Meteo.com (opens in new tab)

Routes up Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

Hand-mapped, with GPX to download — full maps further down.

Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge Planned, not yet walked
12.96 km · ~732 m ascent · ~3¾–5¼ h · loop · 4 summits
Moderate effort Severe: steepness
Park: Hartsop village (donation) · Bus: 508, 570 m walk from Hartsop, adjacent to road end

Hartsop Dodd, Stony Cove Pike and the Caudale Moor tops — four summits in 13 km with 732 m of climbing, and one stage averaging 35%, which ties the steepest on the site. Hard to navigate; about 3¾–5¼ hours.

Distance and climb are measured from the route’s GPX track, and the time from them by Naismith’s rule; the route page says what each grade rests on. How we check →

How hard is Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner?

The shortest way up we hold is Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge — 12.96 km, 732 m of ascent, ~3¾–5¼ h. On our scale its hardest axis is steepness — Severe.

All axes: steepness: Severe · navigation: Hard · length: Moderate · terrain: Not assessed · exposure: Not assessed.

These are the route page’s grades, set by the rules on how we grade: length and steepness measured from its GPX track, the others set on the ground, judged from the map or estimated from OpenStreetMap. The route page says which. How we check →

Conditions and 7-day summit forecast

Modelled for the 755 m summit (Open-Meteo). Check the Met Office mountain forecast and MWIS before you set off.

Full 7-day forecast
Tue 27 Oct
10° / 4°
58 mph
7.9 mm (100%)
Wed 28 Oct
8° / 5°
38 mph
11.7 mm (100%)
Thu 29 Oct
8° / 6°
25 mph
2.6 mm (75%)
Fri 30 Oct
7° / 5°
24 mph
0.0 mm (8%)
Sat 31 Oct
6° / 2°
7 mph
0.0 mm (6%)
Sun 1 Nov
6° / 3°
15 mph
0.3 mm (2%)
Mon 2 Nov
4° / -2°
6 mph
0.0 mm (0%)

Taken 27 October 2026, 20:59 UTC; the live forecast replaces it when it loads. Weather data by Open-Meteo.com (opens in new tab)

Parking & buses for Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

Parking

Route starts first, then the car parks nearest the summit, which are not always a way up.

Hartsop village (donation) — at the start of Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge
For Hartsop Dodd, Gray Crag, High Street via Hayeswater, Brock Crags. It asks an optional donation, not a charge (Lee, who walked past it on 14 August 2026). People also use the Cow Bridge car park, 0.9 km away, if they would rather not drive down the lane.
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If it is full: Cow Bridge, Hartsop (paid) (0.9 km, 32 m up)
Middle Dodd, north-east car park (free) — 1.0 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Middle Dodd (0.7 km), Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner (1.0 km), Red Screes (1.3 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Middle Dodd (layby) — 1.2 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Middle Dodd (0.6 km), Red Screes (0.9 km), St Raven's Edge (1.0 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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3 more places to park near Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner
Middle Dodd car park (free) — 1.2 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Middle Dodd (0.7 km), Red Screes (0.9 km), St Raven's Edge (0.9 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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A592 south of Windy Corner (car park) — 1.3 km from summit (straight line)
South of Windy Corner on the Kirkstone Pass side, about 480 m south of the Windy Corner bus stops. The nearest route starts are 'Finishing of the Far Eastern Fells', 2.6 km north on foot at Hartsop, and the two at Cow Bridge, 2.9 km north on foot. Free (OSM-tagged).
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Red Pit (LDNPA, free) — 1.5 km from summit (straight line)
The National Park's car park on the A592, 0.7 km north of the Kirkstone Pass summit in a straight line, on the Patterdale side. The 'Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge' route passes about 15 m away; it starts at Hartsop village, 4.7 km on foot, the nearest route start. Free (OSM-tagged). Compacted surface (OSM-tagged).
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Positions are approximate.

Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.

Buses

The 508 and 509 stop at Hartsop, adjacent to road end, a 570 m walk and 28 m of ascent from the start of Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge — a route we rate Severe overall (hardest: steepness). The last bus is 19:51 towards Windermere (508), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 7 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

Stagecoach 508 “Ullswater Bus”
Penrith – Pooley Bridge – Aira Force – Glenridding – Patterdale (summer services continue over Kirkstone Pass to Troutbeck and Windermere)
Catch it from: Penrith · Windermere (summer only)
The key route from Penrith for the Eastern and Far Eastern fells: Helvellyn from Glenridding, Place Fell, the Hartsop fells. The summer Kirkstone extension drops you at the pass for Red Screes and Caudale Moor.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before relying on a last bus.

Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat

Hazards on Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

Notes from a planned route, not walked: Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge

  • The plateau link to John Bell's Banner and the descent line are only faintly pathed — broad, featureless ground where navigation needs care in cloud.

If you need to get off (the leg from Stony Cove Pike): Retreat: Stay on the plateau. Do not attempt a descent until you have reached the correct spur at John Bell's Banner.

Quoted from the route page of a planned route, drawn from the map and not yet walked: its warnings and the note for the leg that reaches Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner.

We have not written a hazard card for this fell yet, and that is not a sign that it is low-hazard. Read the warnings on the route pages that climb it, check the forecast, carry a map and compass, and turn back in cloud if the ground is not what you expected. The National Park Authority’s What to pack page, AdventureSmart’s hill walking kit list and Mountain Rescue England and Wales’s safety page are linked from our what to carry guide.

If you need Mountain Rescue

Dial 999 or 112 and ask for the Police, then Mountain Rescue.

Before you call, have ready: where you are (a grid reference if you can – the OS Locate app shows yours on your phone), what has happened, how many of you there are, and your mobile number.

Then stay where you are until the rescue team contacts you.

If you cannot make a voice call because of a hearing or speech impairment, emergency SMS works only if you have registered first: text “register” to 999.

From Mountain Rescue England and Wales’s guidance on calling them out (opens in new tab) (read 26 October 2026).

Map, GPX and nearby Birketts

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).

Parking, toilets and buses: Parking & buses ↑.

Birketts within 3 km of Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

These Birkett tops are not Wainwright summits. Distances are straight lines: check the ground and access on a map before adding one.

1.8 km SSWSt Raven's Edge593 m · Far Eastern

Routes over Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

12.96 km · ~732 m ascent · loop · ~3¾–5¼ h
Moderate effort Severe: steepness
Summits: Hartsop DoddStony Cove Pike (Caudale Moor)Caudale Moor - John Bell's BannerSt Raven's Edge

Download GPX Planned route · not yet walked

Picked for its light in: June, July

Warnings: The plateau link to John Bell's Banner and the descent line are only faintly pathed — broad, featureless ground where navigation needs care in cloud.

Route guide: Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge →

Every line here is a guide, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate for yourself and carry a map and compass. How to use this guide.

On the hill: terrain and water on Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

Water & shelter on the way up

On the Caudale Moor & St Raven's Edge route:

toilets (opens in new tab) (64 m off the line) Road End (opens in new tab) (466 m from the start, straight line)

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors, per route — an absent marker doesn’t mean none.

About Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner

Classifications & hill data

Is Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner a Wainwright?

Caudale Moor - John Bell's Banner is not a Wainwright. It is on the Birkett list and the Synge list.

Selected lists

755 m
Height
2,477 ft
In feet
NY 4128 1008
Grid ref

This is the summit’s grid reference. If you call from anywhere else, give your own position, not this one.

Lists, height and summit position from the Database of British and Irish Hills; the feet are converted from its metres and the grid reference from that position. How we check →

Places to stay near this fell

We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from each route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

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