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Lord's Seat - a stony summit with old fence posts above conifer plantations, low cloud clinging to the fells beyond
Wainwright — North Western FellsAlso a Birkett

Lord's Seat

Lord's Seat at 552m (1,811ft) is the highest point of the Whinlatter Forest fells, a broad, grassy summit giving outstanding views of Bassenthwaite Lake and the Skiddaw massif.

552 m
Height
~2.5–3 h
Typical time
+7
Bonus Birketts
See routes & download GPX → Parking & buses →
552 mWainwright — North Western Fells✓ summit is also a Birkett+7 bonus Birketts within 3 km Straightforward in cloud

Is it worth going? — Today’s conditions & 7-day summit forecast

Modelled guidance for the 552 m summit. Always check the Met Office mountain forecast and MWIS before you set off.

On the summit today (Sat 12 Sep): 15° to 8°C, gusts to 50 mph, 17.0 mm of rain forecast.

Sat 12 Sep
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15° / 8°
💨 50 mph
🌧 17.0 mm (100%)
Sun 13 Sep
☁️
14° / 9°
💨 12 mph
🌧 0.0 mm (10%)
Mon 14 Sep
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15° / 12°
💨 36 mph
🌧 2.6 mm (92%)
Tue 15 Sep
🌧️
14° / 9°
💨 36 mph
🌧 11.7 mm (96%)
Wed 16 Sep
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11° / 8°
💨 27 mph
🌧 4.1 mm (62%)
Thu 17 Sep
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10° / 8°
💨 34 mph
🌧 17.1 mm (84%)
Fri 18 Sep
🌦️
12° / 8°
💨 36 mph
🌧 8.0 mm (75%)

Forecast snapshot from 12 Sep 2026, 15:36 UTC — refreshed nightly and updated live in your browser. Temperatures and gusts adjusted to the 552 m summit altitude via Open-Meteo. Summit conditions are always harsher than the valley — check the professional mountain forecasts before you go.

Lord's Seat at a glance

Lord's Seat

Lord's Seat - a stony summit with old fence posts above conifer plantations, low cloud clinging to the fells beyond
© Lee McCoy

Lord's Seat at 552m (1,811ft) is the highest point of the Whinlatter Forest fells, a broad, grassy summit giving outstanding views of Bassenthwaite Lake and the Skiddaw massif. Wainwright noted the excellent lake views from this unfrequented corner of the North Western Fells. The ascent from Thornthwaite or Whinlatter Forest is pleasant and the summit offers a genuine sense of seclusion. Combined naturally with Broom Fell and Whinlatter for a circuit of the Whinlatter Forest fells.

Routes up Lord's Seat

Hand-mapped, with GPX to download — full maps further down.

Classifications & hill data

Wainwright
North Western
Birkett
Fellranger
Synge
Marilyn
552 m
Height
1,811 ft
In feet
NY 2043 2655
Grid ref

The short answers

Is Lord's Seat a Wainwright?

Lord's Seat is a Wainwright. It is also on the Birkett list, the Synge list, the Fellranger list and the Marilyn list.

Where do you park for Lord's Seat?

The nearest car park we hold is Barf, south-east (layby), about 1.6 km from the summit in a straight line. The next is Car park for Barf (free), 1.6 km out. We only look within 2.5 km, measured straight-line: over longer distances a road may cross a pass and the drive bears no relation to the line.

How hard is Lord's Seat?

The shortest way up we hold is Whinlatter Loop — 13.6 km, 671 m of ascent, about 3.8 hours. On our scale its hardest axis is steepness — Severe.

All axes: steepness: Severe · navigation: Moderate · terrain: Moderate · length: Moderate · exposure: Easy.

My hikes over Lord's Seat (Strava)

1 logged hike pass over this summit:

Interactive route maps and photos load here for visitors with JavaScript. Data from Strava.

Parking & buses for Lord's Seat

Best parking to hike Lord's Seat

Where we have the data, each parking spot also shows the nearest public toilets and facilities (cafés, pubs, shops).

Barf, south-east (layby) — 1.6 km from summit (straight line)
Community walk pages start here for 'Barf, Lord's Seat, Ullister Hill and Seat How' (community walk listings). Free (OSM-tagged). Unpaved surface (OSM-tagged).
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Car park for Barf (free) — 1.6 km from summit (straight line)
0.6 km from Barf. Added from the 5 Aug 2026 OSM candidate review.
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Woodend Brow (Wood End) (free) — 1.7 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Barf (0.9 km), Lord's Seat (1.7 km), Ullister Hill (1.8 km). Free (OSM-tagged). Unpaved surface (OSM-tagged).
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Barf (layby) — 2.0 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Barf (1.0 km), Seat How (Thornthwaite) (1.3 km), Ullister Hill (1.5 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Barf car park (free) — 2.0 km from summit (straight line)
Nearest fells: Barf (1.5 km), Lothwaite (1.8 km). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Positions are approximate — zoom the map to confirm. Lakeland car parks fill before 9am on fine weekends.

Tip: pan and zoom the interactive map at the top of this page to spot other potential parking near your route.

Vehicles are left entirely at their owner’s risk. We list places people park; we cannot vouch for any of them. Judge it on the day: take valuables with you, leave nothing on show, and if a spot feels wrong when you get there, park somewhere else.

Getting to Lord's Seat by bus

The 77 stops at Lorton Winder Hall (near). From there it is 2.5 km and 150 m of ascent to the start of Whinlatter Loop — a walk in before the walk. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day, and it is not daily before then — a bus on 31 of the 56 days from 7 September. We don’t know when it returns. Confirmed with the operator, 29 August 2026. The last bus is 17:56 towards Keswick (77), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 7 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

Stagecoach 77 / 77A “Honister Rambler”
Keswick – Portinscale – Hawse End (Catbells) – Grange – Seatoller – Honister Pass – Buttermere – Lorton – Whinlatter – Keswick (circular)
Catch it from: Keswick (connect via 555 from Windermere/Ambleside or X4/X5 from Penrith)
Seasonal (roughly Easter–October). Brilliant for the North Western fells: Catbells, Dale Head from Honister, the Buttermere fells and Whinlatter.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before relying on a last bus.

Hazards on Lord's Seat

Hazard & Incident Information for Lord's Seat

Hazard: Moderate

The highest of the heavily forested fells north of Whinlatter Pass, an easy grassy top with a fine Bassenthwaite panorama. There are no crags to worry about, so the hazards are boggy ground and navigation — a mix of forest tracks, rough paths and very wet sections where, in mist, it's easy to head off in the wrong direction. Keswick Mountain Rescue Team covers this ground.

  • Boggy ground & navigation in mist: The way up and the link to neighbouring tops cross very boggy ground, and among the forest and featureless moor it's easy to take a wrong line in cloud. Sturdy waterproof footwear, a map and compass are needed; best done in good visibility.
  • Forest tracks & felled areas: Routes use Whinlatter forest tracks that change with felling and can differ from older maps; junctions are easy to muddle. Follow current signage and keep track of your position.
  • Exposure on the open top: The summit is open and can be windy with little shelter. Dress for changeable conditions, especially in winter when the bog freezes and paths ice.
Who should attempt this fell: Lord's Seat is a gentle, view-rich fell with no real cliffs — its catch is bog and navigation, so wear waterproof boots, carry map and compass, and pick a clear day for the views and to avoid going astray among the forest tracks and wet ground. In winter the boggy ground freezes and the forest paths can be icy.

Most common causes: Navigation errors in mist on boggy, featureless ground and forest junctions · Floundering in the wet ground between the tops · Confusion where forest tracks differ from the map after felling · Exposure in poor weather on the open summit

Local Mountain Rescue: Keswick Mountain Rescue Team (opens in new tab) · Reviewed 14 Jun 2026

Safety: Hazard guidance compiled from published Mountain Rescue reports and well-documented accident history - editorial background, not a live feed of callouts. Always check current conditions, carry proper navigation equipment, and seek qualified instruction before heading onto the fells. In an emergency, call 999, ask for Police, then Mountain Rescue.

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Navigating Lord's Seat in cloud

Straightforward

A broad, gently-sloping top with little to steer by — easy to lose your bearings and hard to relocate in mist. Navigation here is relatively straightforward even in cloud — but carry map and compass and know how to use them; a low score never means “safe”.

In winter — snow, whiteout, cornices, buried features — every top demands full winter navigation skills whatever its band, and a broad, gentle summit can be the worst place of all. See walking in bad weather and the navigation guide.

How Lord's Seat compares with all 214 — the Clag Index: navigating in cloud. A relative, deliberately cautious guide; the site can’t navigate for you.

Map & nearby Birketts

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap (switch layers top-right). Parking positions are approximate.

Nearest parking: Barf, south-east (layby), about 1.6 km from the summit (straight line). Full parking, toilets and bus details are below.

Birketts near Lord's Seat (within 3 km)

These Birkett tops are not Wainwright summits — detour to them on this walk and they are pure profit. Distances are straight-line; allow extra for terrain.

0.7 km SEUllister Hill525 m · North Western
1.2 km STarbarrel Moss493 m · North Western
1.3 km SESeat How (Thornthwaite)495 m · North Western
1.8 km SSWWhinlatter Top525 m · North Western
2.4 km NWBurthwaite Heights318 m · North Western
2.6 km WGraystones455 m · North Western
3.0 km NNWRivings335 m · North Western

Routes over Lord's Seat

13.56 km · ~671 m ascent · loop · ~3.5–5 h

⬇️ Download GPX

Full route guide ↗

A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

The view from Lord's Seat

The 360° skyline from Lord's Seat

A computed 360° skyline — every visible named top labelled by distance and bearing, from the terrain model in perfect clarity, not photographed. Drag to pan; reveal the far four-nations horizon.

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Computed 360-degree skyline from Lord's Seat36 labelled tops shown (17 distant behind the far-horizon toggle). Theoretical visibility in perfect clarity; computed from terrain, not photographed.eye levelNNEESESSWWNWScafell Pike · 19 kmHelvellyn · 18 kmSkiddaw · 6 kmBowfell · 20 kmRaise · 17 kmBlencathra · 12 kmSkiddaw Little Man · 6 kmGreat Dodd · 15 kmGrasmoor · 7 kmCrag Hill · 6 kmBroad End · 7 kmGreat Rigg · 22 kmHigh Raise · 19 kmClough Head · 14 kmUllscarf · 17 kmWhiteside East Top · 5 kmGreat Sca Fell · 11 kmHobcarton End · 3 kmBrae Fell · 12 kmBlake Fell · 12 kmBell Crags · 15 kmGreat Mell Fell · 19 kmGavel Fell · 12 kmCarl Side · 5 kmCriffel · 43 km · clear daysLonglands Fell · 11 kmBurnbank Fell · 11 kmGreat Meldrum · 22 kmBroom Fell · 1 kmGraystones · 3 kmBinsey · 9 kmFellbarrow · 8 kmSourfoot Fell · 8 kmSale Fell · 3 kmLothwaite · 3 kmGreen How · 12 kmScafell · 20 kmSkiddaw South Top · 6 kmGreat End · 18 kmCatstye Cam · 18 kmHigh Crag · 19 kmStybarrow Dodd · 16 kmEel Crag · 6 kmKnowe Crags · 11 kmGlaramara · 17 kmSand Hill · 5 kmRanderside · 15 kmPike of Stickle · 20 kmWhiteside · 6 kmHeron Pike North Top · 24 kmStanding Crag · 16 kmLittle Mell Fell · 22 kmGrike · 17 kmLining Crag · 17 kmBengairn · 52 km · clear daysGraystones · 3 kmSighty Crag · 67 km · clear daysSmithy Fell · 8 kmHatteringill Head · 7 kmCalkin Rig · 62 km · clear daysHigh Rigg · 12 kmRivings · 3 kmBainloch Hill · 44 km · clear daysClints Crags · 10 kmGrange Fell · 56 km · clear daysKillyleoch Hill · 64 km · clear daysSlieve Donard · 181 km · a handful of days a yearMerrick · 98 km · a rare clear daySnaefell · 89 km · a rare clear dayCairnsmore of Carsphairn · 94 km · a rare clear dayThe Cheviot · 117 km · a rare clear dayCairnsmore of Fleet · 81 km · a rare clear dayTinto · 111 km · a rare clear daySlieve Croob · 180 km · a handful of days a yearGreen Lowther · 91 km · a rare clear dayDivis · 180 km · a handful of days a yearWhite Coomb · 89 km · a rare clear dayCairn Table · 109 km · a rare clear dayCairnharrow · 73 km · a rare clear dayWisp Hill · 75 km · a rare clear dayRoan Fell · 71 km · a rare clear dayDun Rig · 105 km · a rare clear dayPeel Fell · 84 km · a rare clear day
What you can see from Lord's Seat, by direction
  • North-east: Skiddaw (6 km), Skiddaw North Top (6 km), Broad End (7 km)
  • East: Skiddaw South Top (6 km), Skiddaw Middle Top (6 km), Skiddaw Little Man (6 km), Skiddaw Lesser Man (6 km), Knowe Crags (11 km), Gategill Fell Top (11 km), Blencathra (12 km)
  • South-east: Little Dodd (15 km), Watson's Dodd (15 km), Great Dodd (15 km), Stybarrow Dodd (16 km), Raise (17 km), White Side (17 km), Helvellyn Lower Man (17 km), Helvellyn (18 km), Catstye Cam (18 km), Nethermost Pike (19 km), High Raise (19 km), High Crag (19 km), Dollywaggon Pike (20 km), Fairfield (21 km), Great Rigg (22 km)
  • South: Grisedale Pike (4 km), Sand Hill (5 km), Eel Crag (6 km), Crag Hill (6 km), Dale Head (11 km), Great Gable (16 km), Glaramara (17 km), Looking Steads (17 km), Great End (18 km), Broad Crag (19 km), Ill Crag (19 km), Scafell Pike (19 km), Scafell (20 km), Bowfell (20 km)
  • South-west: Grasmoor (7 km)

On the clearest days the far horizon adds: Slieve Donard (181 km, Ireland), Merrick (98 km, Scotland), Snaefell (89 km, Isle of Man), Cairnsmore of Carsphairn (94 km, Scotland), The Cheviot (117 km, England), Cairnsmore of Fleet (81 km, Scotland), Corserine (93 km, Scotland), Lamachan Hill (92 km, Scotland).

Computed from terrain in perfect clarity, not photographed · distances are straight-line.

Computed from Copernicus GLO-30 terrain; distant tops from the Database of British and Irish Hills (opens in new tab) (CC BY 4.0). See how we compute the view · and the summit intervisibility report below.

Sunrise and sunset on Lord's Seat

Lord's Seat waits for the sun. Its longest wait of the modelled year falls on 1 May, when the sun is up for 29 minutes before it clears this skyline — first light 06:04 against an almanac sunrise of 05:35. You are standing in shadow while the valley below is already lit. The sun comes up to the east-north-east from here (68.0°), and the skyline on that bearing stands at 3.48°.

30°40°50°60°04:37
Midsummer. The filled shape is the skyline as seen from the summit; the line is the sun’s path. Where they meet is first light — everything left of that point is the wait.
Times for 2026, in Lakeland clock time (GMT in winter, BST in summer) — and model outputs rather than observations.
First lightAlmanac sunriseDifference
Midsummer04:37 BST ±5.0 min04:37
Equinox06:20 GMT ±5.0 min06:16+4 min
Midwinter08:42 GMT ±5.0 min08:34+8 min

A low, open northern horizon — the ground falls away northwards (mean -0.33°).

Last light — when the sun leaves Lord's Seat

Lord's Seat holds the light. On not one of the sixteen dates modelled does the sun leave this summit before almanac sunset — the ground falls away westward rather than standing over you, and at midsummer it is still in the sun 5 minutes after the valley has lost it.

The evening of the same three days. A negative difference means a ridge takes the sun before the valley loses it.
Last lightAlmanac sunsetDifference
Midsummer21:59 BST ±5.0 min21:54+5 min
Equinox18:32 GMT ±5.0 min18:27+5 min
Midwinter15:53 GMT ±5.0 min15:49+4 min

Computed, not photographed. First light is the first minute the sun’s upper limb clears this summit’s own skyline and last light the last minute it is still clear of it, both solved against the 360° horizon profile behind The View from Lord's Seat. Almanac sunrise and sunset are the flat-horizon convention. Every time carries a ± band from the 30 m elevation model — it smooths arêtes and cornices, so nothing here claims better than five minutes. These are daylight figures, not a descent plan: the light goes on fading for a good while after the sun leaves, and going down in it is a decision about your own ground and party, not about this table.

What you can see from Lord's Seat

On a clear day — computed sightlines, curvature- and refraction-corrected.
78Wainwrights in view+5 marginal
99 kmFurthest sightlineMerrick
2Sea in viewIrish Sea, Solway Firth

On the clearest days the view reaches across to Scotland and the Isle of Man.

Far horizons
  • Merrick ScotlandNW · 99 km clear
  • Snaefell Isle of ManWSW · 90 km clear
  • Criffel ScotlandNW · 44 km distant
  • Solway Firth bay/estuaryNW · 33 km in view
  • Irish Sea open waterW · 28 km in view
All 78 Wainwrights in clear view (nearest first)

How Lord's Seat’s view compares with all 214 — the View Report: every Wainwright ranked by what you can see from the top.

Sightlines from a bare-earth terrain model (forests and buildings not included), corrected for the Earth’s curvature and average atmospheric refraction. “Distant” sightlines and any over 100 km depend on exceptionally clear air. Modelled from Copernicus GLO-30 open elevation data — a guide to the view, not a guarantee of any single one.

Places to stay near this fell

Croftlands Cottages (opens in new tab) guest house

about 4.7 km from the start, in a straight line

This is the only address in the whole 3-mile radius that publishes a way to deal with the state you come off Whinlatter in: "Hosepipes are available for muddy boots, bikes and paws." plus "A washing machine and additional freezer are stored here." in Jasmine's attached garage. It is also the only self-catering here that claims a physical connection to the start's forest - "Nestled at the base of Whinlatter Forest Park with direct access to the walking and cycling trails" - and the only one where a car-free party can step off the bus at the door, the X5 stopping "outside Fox Howe and Squirrel cottages". Three cottages sleeping 4, 4 and 2 means a family and grandparents can take two of them.

Their directions page warns that the postcode will strand you: CA12 5SA covers the whole of Thornthwaite, so sat nav will not find the cottages once you are in the village - you navigate by the brown Thornthwaite Gallery sign and a slate nameplate by a bus shelter. They also say an osprey nest is visible from the cottage grounds between April and August.

  • Dogs “All three of our holiday cottages are dog friendly with Jasmine Cottage and Fox Howe being able to accommodate two each and Squirrel Cottage one.”
  • Family rooms “Jasmine Cottage Sleeps 4 with patio & views”
  • Parking “Private off road parking beside the cottages”
  • Children “No child mention of any kind on either Croftlands page or the Jasmine page. Swept for child|children|kids|infant|cot|high chair|toddler|baby|adults only|minimum age|over 18|years of age: zero hits. Whole cottages sleeping 4 are let, not family rooms - "Jasmine Cottage Sleeps 4 with patio & views"”

Embleton Spa Hotel (opens in new tab) hotel

about 4.8 km from the start, in a straight line

This is the only property in the radius with an indoor plan for the half of the family that is not walking: "Free use of pool and gym during your stay with us" plus a bar and restaurant doing breakfast, a drop-in lunch and an evening menu, so a wet Tuesday needs no car. It is also the only one that scales from a family bedroom sleeping 4 up to apartments for eight or ten, and the only one reachable without a car - the hourly Penrith-Keswick-Workington bus stops 50 yards away. Their apartments are named after the fells, and one of them is Whinlatter.

The hotel is a converted 18th-century Lakeland farmhouse, and its self-contained apartments are named after lakes and fells - Bassenthwaite sleeps 8, Whinlatter and Skiddaw sleep 5 each. Their bus stop has a name: 'Embleton, Wheatsheef'.

  • Dogs “Swept for dog|dogs|pet|pets|four-legged|furry across all three cached pages: zero hits. Neither welcomed nor banned anywhere in the cache - ask before booking.”
  • Family rooms “Buttermere family ensuite bedroom sleeps 4”
  • Evening meal “Bar/restaurant with breakfast, drop-in lunch menu and evening menu.”
  • Packed lunch “Swept for packed lunch|pack lunch|picnic across all three cached pages: zero hits.”
  • Parking “Swept for parking|car park|off road|driveway|garage: one hit, and it is a direction rather than a facility - "Our driveway is 100 metres ahead on the right." No car park is claimed.”
  • Children “Ullswater Family Apartment Windermere Family Apartment”

High Swinside Holiday Cottages (opens in new tab)

about 1.4 km from the start, in a straight line

At 1.37 km from the start it is the only property in this radius that can take a large party under connected roofs: three cottages sleeping 2, 5 and 9, two of which join through a lockable door to sleep 11-12. That is the extended-family or walking-club answer here, and it comes with a 7kw EV charger, hot tubs and hens - plus the honest catch that the shop and pub are a 20 and 35 minute walk, so an evening meal means a drive or a walk back in the dark.

One of the three, High Swinside Cottage, was built in the 1800s as a farm workers' cottage and still has its beamed ceilings; the owners leave fresh free-range eggs from their own hens and note that Tesco and Sainsburys will deliver to the door.

  • Dogs “Dog friendly 7kw EV Charger Good Wi-fi Hot tubs in a superb setting”
  • Family rooms “Alternatively it can be linked to Little Swinside to sleep 11 overall (via lockable connecting door).”
  • Parking “Swept for parking|car park|off road|driveway|garage: zero hits. They list a 7kw EV charger, which implies somewhere to leave a car, but no parking is actually claimed - do not assume it.”
  • Children “Swept for child|children|kids|infant|cot|high chair|toddler|baby|adults only|minimum age|over 18|years of age: zero hits on the cached page. Capacity is stated instead - "Three Holiday Cottages sleeping 2, 5, or 9 (2 of the cottages can be connected to sleep 11-12)"”

What each place says about itself, quoted from their own site. We have not stayed at any of them, and there are no prices, no booking and no affiliate links. Distances are straight lines from each route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

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