Three Dodds and Calfhow Pike
Start Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small) (paid)
Getting here Parking: Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small), 0.1 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 555 stops at Stanah Dam road end (near), a 270 m walk from this start. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓
Hardest part Severe steepness: Steepest sustained descent about 47% around the 9.0 km mark.
Before you choose
- Almost all grass with few features, the Dodds are a notorious place to go wrong in mist or whiteout — easy to drift off a vague bearing into the wrong valley. Take and trust a compass bearing before leaving the summit; don't navigate by the feel of the slope.
- Watson's Dodd: The flat grassy top has almost no features and only a small cairn at its western edge — in mist it's easy to cross the plateau without finding the summit, or to leave on the wrong bearing. Navigate by compass and don't rely on spotting the cairn.
- Great Dodd: The wide grassy dome has almost nothing to fix on, and in thick cloud you may not see the cairn until you're on it. This is a notorious place to wander off line. Take and trust a compass bearing before leaving the top; don't navigate by the lie of the slope.
Conditions on this route
We score every Lakeland Wainwright each morning on cloud, wind, rain and underfoot, and this route crosses 3 of them. The worst summit governs the verdict — a route is only as kind as its roughest top.
Modelled guidance — not a substitute for the mountain forecast or your own judgement. See how every fell ranks today →
Daylight & turnaround
Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.
See also walking in bad weather and today’s conditions.
Route map
1 Stybarrow Dodd2 Watson's Dodd3 Great Dodd4 Calfhow Pike
Easy 55%Moderate 19%Hard 11%Severe 16%
Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.
Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).
The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.
The walk, stage by stage
- 1
Start → Stybarrow Dodd (4.3 km, 681 m)
Assuming a start from the Legburthwaite/Stanah area in St John's in the Vale, the route tackles the formidable western flank of the Helvellyn range. The ascent begins via the steep, unrelenting zig-zags of the Sticks Pass path. The trail climbs aggressively alongside Stanah Gill, rising out of the valley bracken onto the exposed, grassy fellside. Upon reaching the major crossroads at the crest of Sticks Pass, the route turns north (left), leaving the main thoroughfare to ascend the broad, sweeping grassy dome of Stybarrow Dodd.
WaypointsStanah / Legburthwaite (approx. 150m): The valley-bottom starting point near the Thirlmere dam. Sticks Pass (775m): The critical high-mountain saddle and crossroads connecting Thirlmere to Ullswater. Stybarrow Dodd Summit (844m): A vast, remarkably flat and featureless grassy plateau, usually marked by a meager pile of stones.
Decision pointStanah Gill: The deep ravine of the gill stays to your right during the steepest part of the initial ascent. The Crossroads: Sticks Pass is easy to spot. If you begin descending east towards Glenridding, you have missed the turn-off. The turn-off climbs north to Stybarrow Dodd.
Easy to get wrongThe Initial Grind: The 16% average gradient is heavily front-loaded on the climb up to Sticks Pass. It is a grueling, lung-busting start that demands a steady, measured pace. The Sticks Pass Wind Tunnel: Sticks Pass acts as a massive funnel for weather systems moving across the Lakes. Expect a sudden, violent drop in temperature and high winds the moment you crest the pass. Featureless Summit: The top of Stybarrow Dodd is so flat and grassy that locating the actual highest point can be difficult.
If you need to get offBefore reaching Stybarrow Dodd, the most direct bail is to turn around at Sticks Pass and descend the clear, engineered path back to Stanah. Do not drop east into the Glenridding valley unless you have arranged transport, as it is on the opposite side of the mountain range.
- 2
Stybarrow Dodd → Watson's Dodd (1.1 km, 28 m)
Welcome to the Dodds—a rolling, high-altitude prairie entirely distinct from the rocky crags further south on the Helvellyn ridge. From Stybarrow Dodd, the route heads north across a wide, gently undulating expanse of alpine grass and moss. The path is often faint or braided by sheep tracks. After a minor descent into a shallow saddle, a virtually imperceptible climb brings you to the summit of Watson's Dodd.
WaypointsThe Grassy Saddle: The minor depression separating the two peaks. Watson's Dodd Summit (789m): A flattened, grassy bump situated close to the steep western edge of the ridge, offering superb plunging views into the Legburthwaite valley.
Decision pointThe Western Drop-Off: Watson's Dodd sits right on the western lip of the massif. Keep the sheer drop into St John's in the Vale to your left (west) to maintain orientation.
Easy to get wrongClag Navigation: This plateau is a notorious black spot in low visibility. Without clear ridges, walls, or crags to guide you, the uniform grassy hummocks all look identical. Saturated Ground: Despite the altitude, the depressions between the Dodds can hold significant water and turn into squelchy, boot-sucking bogs after rain.
If you need to get offThere is no quick descent from the saddle between these peaks. If the weather closes in, you must either retrace your steps south to Sticks Pass or press forward to the descent route past Calfhow Pike. Do not attempt to drop blindly down the steep western face.
- 3
Watson's Dodd → Great Dodd (1.4 km, 93 m)
Leaving Watson's Dodd, the route continues its north-easterly trajectory. The terrain remains identical: a vast, trackless sea of grass. The route climbs steadily but gently (at a 7% average gradient) up the immense, rounded flank of Great Dodd, the highest peak of this northern cluster.
WaypointsGreat Dodd Summit (857m): A massive, domed summit marked by a stone wind shelter and a small cairn.
Decision pointCompass Bearings: In mist, a strict north-easterly compass bearing from Watson's Dodd is mandatory to hit the summit shelter. Do not rely on "following the upward slope," as the dome is too broad.
Easy to get wrongExposure: Great Dodd is the highest point on the northern end of the range and completely exposed to the elements. Wandering Off-Bearing: Because the summit dome is so large and rounded, it is incredibly easy to walk right past the summit or drift off your intended bearing without realizing it. Do not drift east or south-east off Great Dodd. This leads into the desolate, trackless bogs of Matterdale Common—a massive navigational trap that will deposit you miles from your start point.
If you need to get offThe map shows no usable way off between Watson's Dodd and Great Dodd: the mapped ways down from this part of the ridge pass mapped crag or ground steeper than 35 degrees. So the way off is back over Stybarrow Dodd to Sticks Pass and down the walk's own way to Stanah, or on over Great Dodd to Calfhow Pike and down the walk's own line, up to about 4.5 km to a road whichever way you go; not walked for this guide.
- 4
Great Dodd → Calfhow Pike (1.5 km, 6 m)
From the summit shelter of Great Dodd, the route heads west-south-west, then curves north-west, plunging down the grassy northern shoulder of the mountain. This descent is sustained and surprisingly steep, shedding over 200 meters of altitude rapidly. The grassy terrain eventually gives way to a distinct, rocky tor protruding from the ridge: Calfhow Pike.
WaypointsThe Northern Shoulder: The steep, grassy descent path off Great Dodd. Calfhow Pike (660m): A prominent, rocky outcrop acting as a subsidiary summit on the ridge connecting Great Dodd to Clough Head.
Decision pointVisual Target: Calfhow Pike is a rarity on the Dodds—it is actually made of rock. On a clear day, this dark, rocky tor serves as a perfect visual bullseye as you descend the grassy slopes.
Easy to get wrongSteep, Wet Grass: The descent off Great Dodd can be treacherous when wet. The short alpine grass gets very slippery, making it a prime slip hazard. Finding the Path: The trod off the summit can be faint initially. Care must be taken not to drop too far west (left) too early, which leads into steep, pathless crags.
If you need to get offYou are now on the route's final descent: continue to Calfhow Pike and follow the route's own path down into the valley.
Calfhow Pike → Finish (2.9 km, 26 m)
From Calfhow Pike, the route abandons the high ridge (leaving the final peak of Clough Head for another day) and drops sharply west/south-west directly into St John's in the Vale. The path zig-zags aggressively down the steep fellside, transitioning from open fell into thick bracken and grazing pastures. Upon hitting the valley floor, a short walk along the farm tracks or minor tarmac road returns you to the Legburthwaite/Stanah starting area.
WaypointsThe Western Descent: The steep path dropping off the ridge line. Valley Intake Walls: The boundary marking the end of the open fell and the beginning of enclosed farmland. St John's in the Vale / Legburthwaite: The flat, valley-bottom finish point.
Decision pointThe Valley Floor: St John's in the Vale is a massive, distinctive trench below you. Simply keep heading downhill towards the valley road. Intake Walls: The drystone walls at the base of the fell funnel you towards the established farm gates and out to the road.
Easy to get wrongKnee Impact: Dropping nearly 500 meters over less than 3 kilometers is jarring. The path is often loose dirt or slippery grass, requiring trekking poles to save your joints. Summer Bracken: The lower half of this descent becomes a dense jungle of bracken in the summer months, hiding uneven ground and loose rocks on the path. Livestock: The lower fields are heavily grazed; keep dogs under close control as you approach the intake walls.
If you need to get offThis entire stage is your exit route. Once you commit to the descent from Calfhow Pike, you are locked onto the quickest path back to your car. Keep heading downhill and avoid wandering laterally into the steep ravines to your left or right.
GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked
Summits bagged (4)
- 1Stybarrow Dodd844 m
- 2Watson's Dodd789 m
- 3Great Dodd857 m
- 4Calfhow Pike660 m
In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.
Conditions and timing
Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.
When the sun reaches the tops
Not sunrise — the moment the sun clears the skyline from that summit, which on a fell with high ground to its east can be a good deal later.
- Stybarrow Dodd — in late March the sun reaches it around 06:15, with the sunrise. In late September, about 07:00.
- Watson's Dodd — in late March the sun reaches it around 06:15, with the sunrise. In late September, about 07:00. It waits longest in late December — about half an hour after sunrise.
- Great Dodd — in late March the sun reaches it around 06:15, with the sunrise. In late September, about 07:00.
How to read these times
The two equinoxes are shown because they fall in the walking season, and late December too wherever a top keeps you waiting then; the clock gap between the equinoxes is British Summer Time, not the hill. Rounded to the nearest quarter hour and meant as a general idea, not a schedule.
Modelled from a 30 m elevation model against each summit’s own skyline — the same figures the fell pages carry, never observed. Cloud is not in it.
Getting there and back
Parking
2 more places to park near the start
Positions are approximate.
Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.
If the parking is full
There is no real plan B by car here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off. The bus below is the exception: it is not limited by car-park space, though it runs to a timetable and can be full.
- Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small) — at the start
- Castle Rock (layby) — a 270 m walk to the start
- Great How (layby) — joins the loop at about km 0.7 of 11.1: a 90 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
- By bus: buses stop at Stanah Dam road end (near), a 270 m walk from the start. A bus is not affected by a full car park. Its return times are under Buses.
We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.
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Buses
The 555 stops at Stanah Dam road end (near), a 270 m walk from this start. As timetabled from 27 October to 1 November. Towards Kendal (555): Tuesday to Friday 21:35 to Ambleside, 20:35 to Windermere, 17:42 to Kendal; Saturday 21:35 to Ambleside, 20:35 to Windermere, 18:12 to Kendal; Sunday 19:42 to Windermere, 18:12 to Kendal. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 24 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.
The 555 passes this route at 0.7 km (Legburthwaite (opposite), 80 m off the line).
Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.
Toilets and refreshments
The essentials
- Arrival Legburthwaite car park (United Utilities), about 60 m from the start: pay and display, coins and cards. 62 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (Lake District National Park car-parks directory, checked 11 August 2026)
- Toilets Toilets are mapped about 90 m from the start. 88 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Refreshments No café or pub is mapped within 250 m of the start: bring what you need. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Limitation Almost all grass with few features, the Dodds are easy to go wrong on in mist: take a compass bearing and trust it before you leave each summit. The way down into St John’s in the Vale reaches about 54% over 250 m. (our route notes (this route's own warnings), checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start
At Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small), the closest parking we hold to where this route starts:
Distances are straight lines from the car park, not walking routes. Opening hours change; none of this is checked daily.
Mapped as nearby on OpenStreetMap too, as of 13 September 2026, within 250 m of the start and not already listed above:
Also mapped within reach: an information board.
Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors (opens in new tab), ODbL.
Water, shelter & getting away
On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.
Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat
Planning detail
How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.
Difficulty profile
Severe overall — hardest: Steepness; terrain not assessed; exposure not assessed on the ground
Five independent axes, not one score. None of them was set on the ground: they are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.
How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.
Pacing
| Summit | Cumulative | Ascent | Time (fast–steady) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1Stybarrow Dodd | 4.3 km | 681 m | 1:59–2:38 |
| 2Watson's Dodd | 5.4 km | 709 m | 2:15–3:00 |
| 3Great Dodd | 6.7 km | 802 m | 2:41–3:34 |
| 4Calfhow Pike | 8.2 km | 807 m | 2:59–3:58 |
| Finish | 11.1 km | 833 m | 3:37–4:48 |
A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.
Access & barriers
Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?
- Buggy: No mapped stiles, but the ground underfoot has not been assessed; not a buggy line on what we know.
- Knees: A long, steep ~54% drop over 250 m around the 8.8 km mark — hard on the knees.
With a dog
Hardest for a dog here: drops and exposed ground (estimated from the map). The steepest stretch is a sustained descent of about 47% around the 9.0 km mark.
- Drops and exposed ground: Not assessed on the ground; the map suggests Hard. Graded from slope only (~54% max); treat exposure as unverified.
- Stiles and gates: Only gates and kissing gates are mapped: no stile a dog can’t get through. That is the barriers alone; check the route’s steep or rocky ground before you bring a dog. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 26 July 2026)
- Rock and scrambling: Ground underfoot: Not assessed.
- Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
- Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.
On the line: 6 gates
Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 26 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).
