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Brown Crag and Raise

10.76 km
Distance
~3¼–4¾ h
Estimated time
~779 m
Ascent
3
Summits
Three tops on the western flank of the Helvellyn range, Brown Crag through White Side to Raise. 779 m of ascent in 10.8 km with one stage averaging 15% and a 46% pull over 250 m early on. Navigation is only moderate here, the paths being clear enough. Roughly 3¼–4¾ hours.

Start Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small) (paid)

Getting here Parking: Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small), 0.0 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 555 stops at Stanah Dam road end (near), a 290 m walk from this start. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓

Hardest part Severe steepness: Steepest sustained descent about 40% around the 9.4 km mark.

Before you choose

  • The Helvellyn range holds hard icy snow well into spring, and cornices form over Keppel Cove. This is full winter mountaineering ground — ice axe, crampons and the skills to use them, and a wide margin kept from the corniced edges.
  • Raise catches and keeps snow, and its slopes can be hard enough that step-kicking alone won't get you up or down safely. When there's snow or ice you need an ice axe, crampons and the skills to use them; the steep flanks toward Keppel Cove and Sticks Gill are unforgiving of a slip.
Planned route — drawn but not personally walked or checked yet. A route line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.
Download GPX →Planned route · not yet walked

Conditions on this route

We score every Lakeland Wainwright each morning on cloud, wind, rain and underfoot, and this route crosses 2 of them. The worst summit governs the verdict — a route is only as kind as its roughest top.

Modelled guidance — not a substitute for the mountain forecast or your own judgement. See how every fell ranks today →

Daylight & turnaround

Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.

Route map

OpenTopoMap
Elevation profile, shaded by steepness
Elevation profile Rises from about 160 m to 877 m over 10.8 km, with the summits marked in order. The area beneath is shaded by sustained steepness over a 500 m window, in the same four bands as the route’s steepness rating: Easy under 15%, Moderate 15 to 25%, Hard 25 to 35%, Severe above 35%. 877 m 160 m 0 km 10.8 km 123

1 Brown Crag2 White Side3 Raise

Easy 60%Moderate 21%Hard 12%Severe 7%

877 m
High point
163 m
Start height

Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).

The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.

The line to the summit of Brown Crag is drawn, not recorded.

The walk, stage by stage

  1. 1

    Start → Brown Crag (2.8 km, 431 m)

    Climb of about 431 m over 2.8 km (around 15% average).

    From the Thirlmere valley floor, cross the intake walls and begin the relentlessly steep, grassy pull up the western flanks of the Helvellyn range. The path is a calf-burning zig-zag that forces its way through thick summer bracken and heather before cresting onto the minor, rocky protrusion of Brown Crag.

    Waypoints

    Thirlmere valley (start), Fisher Place Gill (vicinity), Brown Crag summit (610 m).

    Decision point

    Use the distinct ravines of the plunging valley gills to your left and right to keep you corralled onto the correct ascending spur. The bulk of the Helvellyn range skyline looms directly above you to the east as a massive, unavoidable aiming point.

    Easy to get wrong

    A 15% average gradient means there is zero warm-up on this route. The lower slopes are frequently choked with chest-high bracken in the summer months, which obscures the faint footpaths, traps heat, and harbors sheep ticks. The terrain underfoot is largely trackless, tussocky grass that requires significant exertion.

    If you need to get off

    Turn 180 degrees and carefully retrace your steps straight back down the grassy slope.

  2. 2

    Brown Crag → White Side (2.7 km, 284 m)

    Climb of about 284 m over 2.7 km (around 11% average).

    Leave the minor bump of Brown Crag and continue the eastward grind up the increasingly stony shoulder. The thick vegetation thins out into short, wind-blasted turf and loose rock as you finally gain the crest of the main Helvellyn ridge, turning slightly to reach the airy summit of White Side.

    Waypoints

    Brown Crag, White Side western shoulder, White Side summit (863m).

    Decision point

    The ascending ridge naturally broadens as it meets the main Helvellyn spine. The heavily worn, clear highway of the main ridge path acts as a massive catching feature; once you hit it, White Side's summit is just a short pull away.

    Easy to get wrong

    As you break out of the valley's shelter and gain elevation, exposure to the prevailing westerly winds increases dramatically. The final pull onto White Side features heavily eroded, stony ground that can be slick after rain and is fully exposed to the harsh weather funneling over the central fells. White Side's eastern face is crag and scree dropping abruptly into Keppel and Brown Coves, just north of the summit.

    If you need to get off

    Retreating west down your exact ascent spur is the better option. Avoid dropping north or south off the spur into the steep, trackless, and dangerous ravine systems of Fisher Place Gill or Stanah Gill.

  3. 3

    White Side → Raise (0.9 km, 46 m)

    Undulating section of about 0.9 km.

    Head north from White Side along the broad, high-level plateau of the Helvellyn ridge. The route dips into a shallow, stony saddle before making a short, easy pull over shattered volcanic rock to reach the prominent summit cairn of Raise.

    Waypoints

    White Side, connecting saddle, Raise summit (883m).

    Decision point

    The main ridge path is deeply scarred into the landscape and heavily cairned. Keep the steep, plunging drops into the Glenridding valley clearly to your right (east) as you traverse the saddle.

    Easy to get wrong

    The terrain is a jumble of loose stones and scree which can be jarring on the ankles. This high plateau is notorious for its severe winter conditions; it holds snow longer than almost anywhere else in the district (hence the nearby Lake District Ski Club tow), and in thick hill fog, the broadness of the ridge makes it highly disorienting.

    If you need to get off

    Sticks Pass, just north of Raise, is where this route turns down for Thirlmere. The path east from the pass goes down into the Ullswater side, a different valley from your start, so it needs its own plan for getting back. Neither has been checked for this guide as an escape; judge going on or going back from where you are, in the conditions you have.

  4. Raise → Finish (4.3 km, 18 m)

    Descent of about 715 m over 4.3 km.

    Drop north off Raise to intersect the major ancient crossroads of Sticks Pass. Turn west, plunging off the high ridge down a relentlessly steep, heavily engineered zig-zag path that flanks Sticks Gill, dropping all the way back to the valley floor and the Thirlmere starting point.

    Waypoints

    Raise northern descent, Sticks Pass, Sticks Gill descent path, Thirlmere valley (finish).

    Decision point

    The Sticks Pass crossroads is marked by a large cairn and multiple converging paths. Once you turn west, the deep ravine of Sticks Gill on your left acts as a continuous handrail all the way down to the valley floor.

    Easy to get wrong

    A 713m drop over just 4.3 km is a brutal, knee-destroying descent. The pitched stone path down from Sticks Pass is heavily eroded and becomes highly polished and greasy in wet weather, acting like a rocky slip-and-slide. Walking poles are virtually mandatory here to absorb the immense impact on your joints at the end of the day.

    If you need to get off

    You are on one of the most established escape routes from the Helvellyn range. Stick strictly to the engineered zig-zag path, entirely avoiding the temptation to cut corners down the perilously steep grass banks or drop into the dangerous stream gully itself.

Download GPX

GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked

Summits bagged (3)

  1. 1Brown Crag610 mEastern · Birkett, Synge
  2. 2White Side863 mEastern · Wainwright, Birkett, Fellranger, Synge, Nuttall, Hewitt
  3. 3Raise883 mEastern · Wainwright, Birkett, Fellranger, Synge, Nuttall, Hewitt

In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.

Keep to the built line. The notes on this route mention eroded or braided ground. Where it is mud or standing water, walk through the puddle rather than round it, stay on the pitched stone even where it is a staircase you would rather not use, take the zig-zags the long way, leave loose stones and cross-drains where they lie, and build no cairns. Deep or moving water is a different question — turn back or take the safest way past rather than wade for the sake of a path. Fix the Fells’ volunteers keep these paths: what a metre costs, and how to give a day or a few pounds.

Conditions and timing

Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.

Getting there and back

Parking

Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small) — 0.0 km from the start (straight line)
St John's in the Vale — Sticks Pass side, High Rigg, Raven Crag. Fees: pay and display; coins and cards (Lake District National Park car-parks directory, checked August 2026). Pay and display (visitlakedistrict.com) (United Utilities, checked August 2026).
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If it is full: Roadside parking for Great How (free) (0.7 km) a few spaces only; Dam Triangle, Thirlmere (paid) (1.4 km, 70 m up); Roadside parking for Raven Crag (free) (1.5 km, 70 m up) a few spaces only
High Bridge End, St John's in the Vale (lane, free) — 0.2 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Brown Crag, White Side, Raise and Stybarrow Dodd — the 'Brown Crag and Raise' route starts 212 m away. Also serves 'Three Dodds and Calfhow Pike'. Free (OSM-tagged). Ground surface (OSM-tagged).
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Castle Rock (layby) — 0.2 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Brown Crag, White Side, Raise and Stybarrow Dodd — the 'Brown Crag and Raise' route starts 213 m away. Also serves 'Three Dodds and Calfhow Pike'. Free (OSM-tagged). Ground surface (OSM-tagged).
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2 more places to park near the start
Roadside parking for Great How (free) — 0.6 km from the start (straight line)
0.5 km from Great How. Added from the 5 August 2026 OSM candidate review.
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Great How (layby) — 0.6 km from the start (straight line)
Community walk pages start here for 'The Dodds and Clough Head, via Sticks Pass and St John's in the Vale' (community walk listings). Free (OSM-tagged). Unpaved surface (OSM-tagged).
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Positions are approximate.

Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.

Every option near this start, on the parking map →

If the parking is full

There is no real plan B by car here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off. The bus below is the exception: it is not limited by car-park space, though it runs to a timetable and can be full.

  • Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small) — at the start
  • Castle Rock (layby) — a 280 m walk to the start
  • Great How (layby) — joins the loop at about km 10.1 of 10.8: a 80 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
  • By bus: buses stop at Stanah Dam road end (near), a 290 m walk from the start. A bus is not affected by a full car park. Its return times are under Buses.

We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.

No signal when you get there? RoutePark keeps this list on your phone: choose this walk’s GPX at home, keep it, and it opens offline.

Buses

The 555 stops at Stanah Dam road end (near), a 290 m walk from this start. As timetabled from 27 October to 1 November. Towards Kendal (555): Tuesday to Friday 21:35 to Ambleside, 20:35 to Windermere, 17:42 to Kendal; Saturday 21:35 to Ambleside, 20:35 to Windermere, 18:12 to Kendal; Sunday 19:42 to Windermere, 18:12 to Kendal. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 24 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

The 555 passes this route at 0.6 km (Legburthwaite (opposite), 80 m off the line).

Stagecoach 555
Kendal – Staveley – Windermere – Ambleside – Rydal – Grasmere – Thirlmere (Wythburn & Swirls) – Keswick
Catch it from: Windermere · Ambleside
Year-round, roughly hourly. The backbone bus of the A591 — ideal for Helvellyn (Wythburn/Swirls), Fairfield, the Central fells and anything around Grasmere/Rydal. From Penrith, take the X4/X5 to Keswick and change.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.

Toilets and refreshments

The essentials

  • Arrival Legburthwaite car park (United Utilities), beside the start: pay and display, coins and cards. 13 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (Lake District National Park car-parks directory, checked 11 August 2026)
  • Toilets Toilets are mapped beside the start. 17 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
  • Refreshments No café or pub is mapped within 250 m of the start: bring what you need. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
  • Limitation In winter Raise and the Helvellyn range hold hard, icy snow, with cornices over Keppel Cove: full winter mountaineering ground, needing ice axe, crampons and the skills to use them. (our route notes (this route's own warnings), checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start

At Legburthwaite (United Utilities, small), the closest parking we hold to where this route starts:

Legburthwaite Car Park (opens in new tab) (~8 m straight line) — Free

Distances are straight lines from the car park, not walking routes. Opening hours change; none of this is checked daily.

Mapped as nearby on OpenStreetMap too, as of 13 September 2026, within 250 m of the start and not already listed above:

Public toilets (opens in new tab) (~17 m straight line) — Free

Also mapped within reach: an information board.

Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors (opens in new tab), ODbL.

Water, shelter & getting away

bus shelter (opens in new tab) (78 m off the line) Thirlmere Dam Road End (opens in new tab) (219 m from the start, straight line)

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.

Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat

Planning detail

How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.

Difficulty profile

Severe overall — hardest: Steepness; terrain not assessed; exposure not assessed on the ground

LengthModerate10.76 km round.
SteepnessSevereSteepest sustained descent about 40% around the 9.4 km mark.
TerrainNot assessedThe map holds no grading for what is underfoot on this line, so we don’t guess. A rating appears once the ground is assessed.
NavigationModerateNo large featureless ground on the map; carry a map and compass for cloud. Moderate – estimated from the map, not checked on the ground
ExposureNot assessedNot assessed on the ground; the map suggests Hard. Graded from slope only (~46% max); treat exposure as unverified. Exposure (drops, scrambling, how bad a slip would be) needs the ground, so a map estimate is not given a grade here and does not count towards the overall grade.

Five independent axes, not one score. None of them was set on the ground: they are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.

How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.

Pacing

SummitCumulativeAscentTime (fast–steady)
1Brown Crag2.8 km431 m1:17–1:43
2White Side5.5 km715 m2:18–3:03
3Raise6.5 km760 m2:34–3:24
Finish10.8 km779 m3:27–4:35

A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.

Access & barriers

Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?

Dog
Gates only
Buggy
Not buggy-able
Knees
Tough descent
  • Buggy: No mapped stiles, but the ground underfoot has not been assessed; not a buggy line on what we know.
  • Knees: A long, steep ~44% drop over 250 m around the 9.3 km mark — hard on the knees.

With a dog

Hardest for a dog here: drops and exposed ground (estimated from the map). The steepest stretch is a sustained descent of about 40% around the 9.4 km mark.

  • Drops and exposed ground: Not assessed on the ground; the map suggests Hard. Graded from slope only (~46% max); treat exposure as unverified.
  • Stiles and gates: Only gates and kissing gates are mapped: no stile a dog can’t get through. That is the barriers alone; check the route’s steep or rocky ground before you bring a dog. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 26 July 2026)
  • Rock and scrambling: Ground underfoot: Not assessed.
  • Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
  • Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.

On the line: 2 gates

Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 26 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).

Places to stay near this start

2 places in Keswick

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