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Thorn Crag - a grassy fellside with a small cairn below the craggy Langdale Pikes rising against a blue sky
Birkett — Central (not a Wainwright summit)Birkett top

Thorn Crag

Thorn Crag at 644m (2,113ft) is a Birkett top on the rough fell above the Langstrath valley and Stonethwaite in the Central Fells, giving views into the wild Langstrath valley and across to the Glaramara ridge.

644 m
Height
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644 mBirkett — Central (not a Wainwright summit)+7 bonus Birketts within 3 km

Is it worth going? — Today’s conditions & 7-day summit forecast

Modelled guidance for the 644 m summit. Always check the Met Office mountain forecast and MWIS before you set off.

On the summit today (Fri 11 Sep): 11° to 8°C, gusts to 26 mph, 2.4 mm of rain forecast.

Fri 11 Sep
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11° / 8°
💨 26 mph
🌧 2.4 mm (100%)
Sat 12 Sep
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14° / 8°
💨 45 mph
🌧 37.8 mm (100%)
Sun 13 Sep
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12° / 8°
💨 22 mph
🌧 0.4 mm (62%)
Mon 14 Sep
🌧️
14° / 8°
💨 32 mph
🌧 13.3 mm (100%)
Tue 15 Sep
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13° / 8°
💨 34 mph
🌧 8.4 mm (89%)
Wed 16 Sep
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10° / 8°
💨 32 mph
🌧 3.8 mm (78%)
Thu 17 Sep
🌦️
10° / 8°
💨 36 mph
🌧 6.2 mm (92%)

Forecast snapshot from 11 Sep 2026, 08:30 UTC — refreshed nightly and updated live in your browser. Temperatures and gusts adjusted to the 644 m summit altitude via Open-Meteo. Summit conditions are always harsher than the valley — check the professional mountain forecasts before you go.

Thorn Crag at a glance

The short answers

Is Thorn Crag a Wainwright?

Thorn Crag is not a Wainwright. It is on the Birkett list and the Synge list.

Where do you park for Thorn Crag?

The nearest car park we hold is Old Dungeon Ghyll (NT, paid), about 1.2 km from the summit in a straight line. The next is Side Pike (verge, south), 1.6 km out. We only look within 2.5 km, measured straight-line: over longer distances a road may cross a pass and the drive bears no relation to the line.

How hard is Thorn Crag?

The shortest way up we hold is Langdale Pikes Round — 12.3 km, 830 m of ascent, about 3.9 hours. On our scale its hardest axis is steepness — Severe.

All axes: steepness: Severe · navigation: Hard · exposure: Moderate · length: Moderate · terrain: Moderate.

My hikes over Thorn Crag (Strava)

1 logged hike pass over this summit:

Interactive route maps and photos load here for visitors with JavaScript. Data from Strava.

Parking & buses for Thorn Crag

Best parking to hike Thorn Crag

Where we have the data, each parking spot also shows the nearest public toilets and facilities (cafés, pubs, shops).

Old Dungeon Ghyll (NT, paid) — 1.2 km from summit (straight line)
Head of Great Langdale — Bowfell, Crinkle Crags, Pike o' Blisco, the Langdale Pikes. Free for NT members (checked Aug 2026).
🕑 Typically full before 10:00 on fine weekends, Apr-Oct — Lee McCoy, local observation, 2026-08-09.
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If it is full: Stickle Ghyll (NT, paid) (0.9 km); Side Pike (verge, south) (0.9 km) a few spaces only; Side Pike (verge) (0.9 km, 31 m up) a few spaces only
Side Pike (verge, south) — 1.6 km from summit (straight line)
0.7 km from Side Pike.
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Stickle Ghyll (NT, paid) — 1.7 km from summit (straight line)
Walking base for Pavey Ark, Harrison Stickle, Thorn Crag and Loft Crag — the 'Langdale Horseshoe' route starts 17 m away. Also serves 'Langdale Pikes Round'. Paid National Trust car park - the prices we used to show here came from an aggregator rather than the Trust, so we no longer publish a figure; check the machine on arrival, and members should bring their card (National Trust car-park list, checked Aug 2026). Unpaved surface (OSM-tagged). Height barrier (community-reported). Direct start up Stickle Ghyll for the Langdale Pikes.
🕑 Typically full before 10:00 on fine weekends, Apr-Oct — Lee McCoy, local observation, 2026-08-09.
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If it is full: Old Dungeon Ghyll (NT, paid) (0.9 km); Blea Tarn (NT, paid) (2.0 km); Three Shire Stone, Wrynose Pass (verge) (4.0 km)
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New Dungeon Ghyll (LDNPA, paid) — 1.8 km from summit (straight line)
Walking base for Sergeant Man, High Raise (High White Stones), Thunacar Knott and Pavey Ark — the 'Langdale Pikes Round' route starts 127 m away. Also serves 'Langdale Horseshoe'. Fees: 2h £5.00, 4h £7.00, 24h £8.50, week £35.00 (aggregator-listed).
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Side Pike (verge) — 1.8 km from summit (straight line)
0.9 km from Side Pike.
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Positions are approximate — zoom the map to confirm.

Tip: pan and zoom the interactive map at the top of this page to spot other potential parking near your route.

Vehicles are left entirely at their owner’s risk. We list places people park; we cannot vouch for any of them. Judge it on the day: take valuables with you, leave nothing on show, and if a spot feels wrong when you get there, park somewhere else.

Getting to Thorn Crag by bus

The 516 stops at New Dungeon Ghyll Hotel (at), 140 m from the start of Langdale Pikes Round — a route we rate Moderate. Last bus: Monday to Friday 20:13 towards Kendal (516) and 18:13 towards Ambleside (516); Saturday 22:33 towards Kendal (516) and 21:13 towards Ambleside (516); Sunday 20:13 towards Kendal (516) and 18:13 towards Ambleside (516). Checked against the operator’s timetable, 7 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

Stagecoach 516 “Langdale Rambler”
Ambleside – Skelwith Bridge – Elterwater – New Dungeon Ghyll – Old Dungeon Ghyll
Catch it from: Ambleside · Windermere (change at Ambleside)
The Langdale bus — Pikes, Bowfell, Crinkle Crags, Pike o' Blisco all walkable from the Dungeon Ghyll stops. Seasonal frequency varies; check before relying on the last bus back.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before relying on a last bus.

Hazards on Thorn Crag

No hazard card for this fell. The usual open-fell rules apply: check the forecast, carry a map and compass, and turn back in cloud if the ground is not what you expected.

Map & nearby Birketts

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap (switch layers top-right). Parking positions are approximate.

Nearest parking: Old Dungeon Ghyll (NT, paid), about 1.2 km from the summit (straight line). Full parking, toilets and bus details are below.

Birketts near Thorn Crag (within 3 km)

These Birkett tops are not Wainwright summits — detour to them on this walk and they are pure profit. Distances are straight-line; allow extra for terrain.

2.1 km NNECodale Head732 m · Central
2.2 km WSWWhite Stones - The Band568 m · Southern
2.2 km SESide Pike362 m · Southern
2.6 km WNWBlack Crags (Mickleden)588 m · Southern
2.8 km WNWBuck Pike (Mickleden)606 m · Southern
2.8 km ECastle How (Raw Pike)498 m · Central
2.9 km NLow White Stones731 m · Central

Routes over Thorn Crag

20.2 km · ~1497 m ascent · loop · ~6.5–8.5 h · Severe

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⚠️ Warnings: The Bad Step (Crinkle Crags, Long Top). A short, awkward rock step that turns a walk into a scramble and regularly stops people dead. There is a bypass path to the left — use it if you are unsure. Do not attempt Jack’s Rake on Pavey Ark unless you know what you are taking on. It is a graded scramble with real exposure, not a path. The walkers’ line goes round. 20 km, 1,497 m and fifteen tops. This is a full, committing day. Start early, and decide your turn-back time before you leave the car. The Crinkles are the classic place to descend the wrong side in cloud. Know which valley you want before you are in it.

Full route guide ↗

✎️ Planned route — drawn but not personally walked or checked yet.

A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

12.34 km · ~830 m ascent · loop · ~3.5–5 h · Clockwise · Moderate

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Best season: Any season in good conditions; the plateau behind the Pikes is featureless in cloud.

⚠️ Warnings: Avoid Jack's Rake on Pavey Ark unless you're a confident scrambler — the walkers' route reaches the same summit. Boggy ground and confusing navigation on the High Raise and Sergeant Man plateau in mist. Steep, rocky ground around the Pikes.

Full route guide ↗

A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

On the hill: terrain and water on Thorn Crag

Water & shelter on the way up

💧 Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is usually a tap or public supply, but never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock or a carcass upstream and leave you seriously ill. Run it through a filter or purifier (a LifeStraw, Sawyer Squeeze or HydraPak) or bring it to a rolling boil first.

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors, per route — an absent marker doesn’t mean none.

Places to stay near this fell

From Great Langdale: 3 places in Grasmere

Other fells near Thorn Crag