Birketts around Grisedale Pike
Start Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park
Getting here Parking: Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), 0.0 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 77 and 77A stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 90 m walk from this start. The 77A runs until 1 November 2026, the last day of its season. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓
Hardest part Hard steepness: Steepest sustained climb about 27% around the 1.7 km mark. Easy scramble: the scramble up Hopegill Head from Sand Hill and the down-climb off its north-west ridge (km 4.9–5.8).
Before you choose
- Hopegill Head: A large, steep, vegetated cliff drops away just beside the summit. Descending south-east you must keep clear of the big drop to your left, and in cloud or wind it is easy to drift toward an edge that gives almost no warning. Stay back from the rim and keep to the path.
- Grisedale Pike: The northern side of the summit and the ridge toward Hopegill Head drops in steep crags above Hobcarton. In cloud or wind keep back from the edge — the ground that looks like the continuation of the ridge ends in cliffs.
- Forestry England posts felling areas and path diversions at Whinlatter on its Whinlatter updates page (last read 7 Oct 2026). Check it before you go, and follow the signs on the day.
Conditions on this route
We score every Lakeland Wainwright each morning on cloud, wind, rain and underfoot, and this route crosses 2 of them. The worst summit governs the verdict — a route is only as kind as its roughest top.
Modelled guidance — not a substitute for the mountain forecast or your own judgement. See how every fell ranks today →
Daylight & turnaround
By bus: the Honister Rambler (77/77A) (opens in new tab) reaches Whinlatter Visitor Centre at 09:55 and the last one back leaves from Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre at 17:56. At a steady pace this walk finishes about 14:21. Be off Swinside by 14:06, to be down at least an hour before dusk on 1 November; that is earlier than the last bus needs. Seasonal: the 77’s last day is in Buses. The last bus is from the operator’s timetable, checked 12 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November. Check the timetable before you rely on it.
Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.
See also walking in bad weather and today’s conditions.
Route map
1 Hobcarton End2 Grisedale Pike3 Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head)4 Sand Hill5 Hopegill Head6 Ladyside Pike7 Swinside
Easy 73%Moderate 25%Hard 3%Severe
Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.
Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).
The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.
The walk, stage by stage
- 1
Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park → Hobcarton End (2.4 km, 316 m)
Leave the Whinlatter visitor center and climb through the dense, sheltered forestry tracks. Once you break out of the tree line and cross the forest boundary, tackle the immediate, aggressive pull up the steep, heather-clad ridge that leads directly to the airy viewpoint of Hobcarton End.
WaypointsWhinlatter Forest trails, forest boundary fence, Hobcarton End summit (634m).
Decision pointThe forestry tracks are heavily waymarked. Once you hit the open fell, the ridge line and the distinct deer fence act as a continuous handrail pointing straight up the spine of the hill to the first summit.
Easy to get wrongThe transition from the sheltered, wind-blocked forestry tracks to the exposed open fell can be a jarring shock to the system, especially when westerly winds are howling. The path up the ridge is deeply rutted, steep, and heavily eroded in places, demanding a strenuous effort right out of the gate with zero time to warm up.
If you need to get offTurn around and descend the ridge back to the tree line and the forest tracks you came up by. Forestry England closes parts of Whinlatter in extreme weather and for forestry work: check its notices before you go, and follow the signs on the day.
- 2
Hobcarton End → Grisedale Pike (1.1 km, 165 m)
Continue south-south-east along the soaring ridge, keeping back from the edge. The path turns into a steep, rocky staircase, grinding up through loose scree and blocky volcanic rock to finally top out at the prominent summit cairn of Grisedale Pike.
WaypointsHobcarton Crag (eastern rim), Grisedale Pike summit (791m).
Decision pointKeep the dramatic, sweeping drop of the Hobcarton basin on your right (west/north-west) as a massive visual guide. The heavily eroded, stony path leading to the summit cairn is clear in all but deep snow.
Easy to get wrongThe drops over Hobcarton Crag to your right are near-vertical and composed of crumbly, unstable rock. In winter, massive, treacherous cornices build up along this edge, so stay well back. The final pull to the summit of Grisedale Pike involves loose scree on a 14% gradient that will severely test the calves.
If you need to get offBefore committing to the final steep pull, you can easily retreat along the ridge back to Hobcarton End. Do not attempt to bail east down the impossibly steep scree slopes of Sleet How from the summit unless you are specifically aiming for Braithwaite and know the descent path well.
- 3
Grisedale Pike → Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) (0.7 km, 26 m)
Drop south-west from the summit of Grisedale Pike down a heavily eroded, stony chute into a shallow, windswept saddle. From the depression, traverse the high-level rim of the cirque, rolling gently over the stony ground to reach the minor rocky bump that marks the true summit of Hobcarton Crag (also known as Hobcarton Head).
WaypointsGrisedale Pike descent path, Hobcarton basin rim, Hobcarton Crag/Head summit (739m).
Decision pointThe ridge path here is broad and well-defined. Maintain the horseshoe curve by keeping the sheer, yawning drop of the Hobcarton basin clearly on your right-hand side.
Easy to get wrongThe initial descent off Grisedale Pike is notoriously loose; it consists of ball-bearing gravel over hard-packed dirt, making slips highly likely. This saddle acts as a massive wind tunnel, funneling south-westerly gales over the ridge that can easily buffet tired walkers off balance.
If you need to get offIf the winds are too severe, reverse your route back over Grisedale Pike. If you must escape laterally, Coledale Hause, ahead, is the usual way down from this ridge; it has not been checked for this guide as an escape. Do not drop blindly into the ravines from the ridge itself.
- 4
Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) → Sand Hill (0.7 km, 56 m)
Continue tracking the edge of the horseshoe, traversing the high, stony plateau above the Hobcarton valley. A short, somewhat loose pull up a stony slope brings you to the modest, rounded prominence of Sand Hill.
WaypointsHobcarton cirque rim, Sand Hill summit (756m).
Decision pointThe horseshoe ridge is geographically stark and easy to follow in clear weather. Use the continuous drop on your right (north) to guide you along the rim towards the looming, dramatic slab-face of Hopegill Head directly ahead.
Easy to get wrongAs the name implies, Sand Hill features patches of loose, sandy scree that are frustratingly mobile underfoot. The exposure remains absolute along this unprotected ridge, offering zero shelter from incoming weather systems sweeping in from the Solway Firth. Hobcarton Crag, Hopegill Head's north-east precipice, is a large, steep, vegetated cliff that drops away just beside the summit.
If you need to get offColedale Hause (just south of Hopegill Head) is the usual way down from this ridge, and has not been checked for this guide as an escape. Attempting to bail sideways off Sand Hill into the Hobcarton basin means dropping onto trackless, vertical crags.
- 5
Sand Hill → Hopegill Head (0.3 km, 32 m)
Dip briefly from Sand Hill into a tiny rocky depression before tackling the short, sharp, hands-on scramble up the blocky slabs to reach the sensational, airy summit peak of Hopegill Head.
WaypointsSand Hill depression, Hopegill Head summit (770m).
Decision pointThe massive, tilted slabs of Hopegill Head are obvious. Trace the rocky crest upward, but strictly avoid wandering too far to the right (north) toward the sheer drop.
Easy to get wrongThe final approach onto Hopegill Head requires a brief but exposed rocky scramble. The northern face of this mountain is a sheer, terrifying vertical drop directly into the Hobcarton basin; extreme care is needed near the summit cairn, especially if the slabby rock is slick with rain or ice.
If you need to get offFrom the summit, you can bail south-east down the heavily trodden, distinct path to Coledale Hause, which provides a clear descent route into either the Coledale or Lorton valleys.
- 6
Hopegill Head → Ladyside Pike (0.6 km, 20 m)
Leave the summit of Hopegill Head by dropping north-west, carefully down-climbing a rough, shattered rocky ridge. As the gradient eases, the rock transitions into a steep, grassy spur that leads directly out to the sharp, pointed summit of Ladyside Pike.
WaypointsHopegill Head north-west ridge, Ladyside Pike summit (703m).
Decision pointThe ridge line is incredibly sharp, narrow, and well-defined. Aim directly for the pointed peak of Ladyside Pike ahead of you, ensuring you do not stray into the dangerously steep, heather-choked gullies that fall away dramatically on either flank.
Easy to get wrongThe initial descent off Hopegill Head is an exhilarating but demanding rocky scramble downwards. The Skiddaw slate here is famously fractured and sharp, requiring deliberate hand placements. Once you hit the grass towards Ladyside Pike, the ground can become surprisingly greasy, requiring caution not to slip.
If you need to get offRe-ascending the scramble back to Hopegill Head to utilize the Coledale Hause escape route is the best bet if the weather suddenly turns. Attempting to drop blindly into the ravines flanking this specific ridge is highly dangerous.
- 7
Ladyside Pike → Swinside (1.5 km, 31 m)
Plunge off Ladyside Pike's northern nose, following a faint, grassy zig-zag path down the relentlessly steep shoulder. The punishing gradient eventually softens as you cross a minor depression and reach the rolling, modest prominence of Swinside.
WaypointsLadyside Pike northern descent, connecting saddle, Swinside summit.
Decision pointFollow the crest of the spur directly downwards. The sprawling, dark green blocks of the Whinlatter forestry plantations and the Lorton valley roads directly below serve as massive, unavoidable visual targets.
Easy to get wrongThis descent is a notorious knee-destroyer. The gradient is aggressively steep over wet grass and loose soil, making walking poles highly advisable to absorb the impact and prevent taking a long slide. The bracken on the lower sections of Swinside can also be thick in the summer months.
If you need to get offThe route's own descent down the grassy spur is the way this guide describes from here. Keep to the spur, away from the steep, rocky stream gullies on either side.
Swinside → Finish (4.4 km, 104 m)
Continue descending from Swinside until you intersect the boundary of the Whinlatter Forest. Enter the woodland and navigate the sprawling network of undulating, hard-packed forestry tracks, winding your way back through the trees to reach the visitor center and car park.
WaypointsSwinside descent, Whinlatter Forest boundary, forestry track network, Whinlatter Pass (finish).
Decision pointPay strict attention to Forestry Commission waymarkers and map junctions carefully. Keep the main Whinlatter Pass road (often visible or audible through the trees) as a general handrail to ensure you are continually trending back towards the visitor center.
Easy to get wrongWhile physically easy compared to the high fells, the labyrinth of forestry tracks can be deeply confusing. The sheer number of crossing logging roads makes it very easy to take a wrong turn and inadvertently add miles to your day. Stay alert for fast-moving mountain bikers who share these trails.
If you need to get offYou are in a managed forest with extensive logging road access. Keep to the main graded tracks and the signed walking paths, never the mountain-bike trails, and avoid unmarked shortcuts through the dense, tangled pine blocks.
GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked
Summits bagged (7)
- 1Hobcarton End634 m
- 2Grisedale Pike790 m
- 3Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head)738 m
- 4Sand Hill756 m
- 5Hopegill Head770 m
- 6Ladyside Pike704 m
- 7Swinside509 m
In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.
Conditions and timing
Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.
Getting there and back
Parking
2 more places to park near the start
Positions are approximate.
Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.
If the parking is full
There is no real plan B by car here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off. The bus below is the exception: it is not limited by car-park space, though it runs to a timetable and can be full.
- Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid) — at the start
- Hobcarton (free) — joins the loop at about km 9.9 of 11.7: a 170 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
- Whinlatter Top (verge) — joins the loop at about km 10.2 of 11.7: a 130 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
- By bus: buses stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 90 m walk from the start. A bus is not affected by a full car park. Its return times are under Buses.
We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.
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Buses
The 77 and 77A stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 90 m walk from this start. The 77A runs until 1 November 2026, the last day of its season. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. It returns on 22 March 2027. Confirmed with the operator: its last day on 29 August 2026, its return on 16 October 2026. The last bus is 17:56 towards Keswick (77A) and 16:45 towards Cockermouth (77), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.
The 77 passes this route at 0.1 km (Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, 10 m off the line).
Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.
Toilets and refreshments
The essentials
- Arrival Whinlatter visitor centre car park (Forestry England), about 25 m from the start: the first 20 minutes free, £2.90 for the first hour, then 70p per 15 minutes, £14 all day; free for members. Pay on exit, by card at the machine or cash at the visitor centre. 26 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (Forestry England, Whinlatter, checked 11 August 2026)
- Toilets Toilets are mapped about 35 m from the start. 36 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Refreshments Café Ambio is mapped about 60 m from the start. OpenStreetMap gives its hours as 09:30 to 16:00 on weekdays and 09:30 to 16:30 at weekends: check before you rely on them. 58 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Limitation Forestry England posts felling areas and path diversions at Whinlatter on its updates page: check it before you go, and follow the signs on the day. (our route notes (this route's own warnings); Forestry England, Whinlatter updates, checked 1 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start
At Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), the closest parking we hold to where this route starts:
Distances are straight lines from the car park, not walking routes. Opening hours change; none of this is checked daily.
Water, shelter & getting away
Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is not proof the water is drinkable, so carry your own or use a supply you know is safe. Never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock upstream and leave you seriously ill. Use a treatment method suited to what might be in the water, and follow the device’s own instructions. Boiling and ordinary filters do not make water with dissolved metals or chemicals safe: where that is possible, choose another source.
On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.
Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat
Planning detail
How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.
Difficulty profile
Hard overall — hardest: Steepness; terrain not assessed; exposure not assessed on the ground
Five independent axes, not one score. None of them was set on the ground: they are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.
How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.
Pacing
| Summit | Cumulative | Ascent | Time (fast–steady) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1Hobcarton End | 2.4 km | 316 m | 1:00–1:20 |
| 2Grisedale Pike | 3.4 km | 482 m | 1:29–1:59 |
| 3Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) | 4.1 km | 508 m | 1:40–2:13 |
| 4Sand Hill | 4.8 km | 564 m | 1:54–2:32 |
| 5Hopegill Head | 5.1 km | 595 m | 2:01–2:41 |
| 6Ladyside Pike | 5.8 km | 615 m | 2:11–2:54 |
| 7Swinside | 7.3 km | 646 m | 2:32–3:22 |
| Finish | 11.7 km | 750 m | 3:35–4:46 |
A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.
Access & barriers
Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?
- Buggy: Stiles or rough going on the route.
- Knees: A sustained ~25% descent over 250 m around the 7.4 km mark — a little jarring on tired knees.
With a dog
Hardest for a dog here: rock and scrambling. The steepest stretch is a sustained climb of about 27% around the 1.7 km mark.
- Rock and scrambling: Easy scramble: the scramble up Hopegill Head from Sand Hill and the down-climb off its north-west ridge (km 4.9–5.8). Ground underfoot: Not assessed.
- Drops and exposed ground: Not assessed on the ground; the map suggests Hard. 3 mapped crag feature(s) near the line — check the airy sections.
- Stiles and gates: Stiles of unmapped type at 2.2 and 7.9 km — a dog may need lifting over. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 26 July 2026)
- Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
- Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.
On the line: 1 gate · 2 stiles (type unmapped)
Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 26 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).
Places to stay near this start
- Croftlands Cottages (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 1.9 km
- Dancing Gate Cottage (opens in new tab) self-cateringabout 4.2 km
- High Swinside Holiday Cottages (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 3.9 km
- Braeside (opens in new tab) self-cateringabout 4.5 km
We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).
Walks from places nearby
- Walks from Whinlatter Forest — 0.0 km from this start
- Walks from Braithwaite — 2.5 km from this start
Straight-line distance from this walk’s start. Those lists hold the routes we have mapped and every Wainwright and Outlying fell within about 5 km of the town, ranked nearest first.


