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11.7 km · ~598 m ascent · ~3–4.5 h · loop · 7 summits

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Birketts around Grisedale Pike

11.7 km
Distance
~3–4.5 h
Typical time
~598 m
Ascent
7
Summits
Download GPX →Planned route · not yet walked

Key facts

Distance 11.7 km
Ascent ~598 m
Descent ~601 m
Time ~3–4.5 h
Type Loop
Start Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park
Seven tops on and around Grisedale Pike, taking in Hobcarton End, Hobcarton Crag and Sand Hill — 11.7 km and 598 m over eight stages, rated severe for steepness and hard for exposure. About 3.3 hours.
✎️ Planned route — drawn but not personally walked or checked yet. A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

Difficulty profile

LengthModerate11.7 km round.
SteepnessSevereSteepest sustained pull about 36% around the 2.9 km mark.
TerrainModerateMostly good mountain path. desk assessment — not field-verified
NavigationModerateClear line, hard to stray. desk assessment — not field-verified
ExposureNot assessedExposure (drops, scrambling, how bad a slip would be) can’t be judged from gradient data alone, so we don’t guess. A rating appears once the route is editorially assessed or walked.

Five independent axes, not one score. “Desk” ratings come from maps and guidebooks, not yet walked — treat them as a guide, not a survey.

Conditions on this route

We score every Lakeland Wainwright each morning on cloud, wind, rain and underfoot, and this route crosses 2 of them. The worst summit governs the verdict — a route is only as kind as its roughest top.

Modelled guidance — not a substitute for the mountain forecast or your own judgement. See how every fell ranks today →

Daylight & turnaround

By bus: the Honister Rambler (77/77A) (opens in new tab) reaches Whinlatter Visitor Centre at 09:55 and the last one back leaves at 17:56. At a steady pace this walk finishes about 14:21. Be off Swinside by 15:47. Runs daily, including public holidays. From the summer 2026 timetable, read on 21 Aug 2026. Check the timetable before you rely on it.

Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.

OpenTopoMap
Elevation profile, shaded by steepness
Elevation profile Rises from about 283 m to 762 m over 11.7 km, with the summits marked in order. The area beneath is shaded by sustained steepness over a 250 m window, in the same four bands as the route’s steepness rating: Easy under 15%, Moderate 15 to 25%, Hard 25 to 35%, Severe above 35%. 762 m 283 m 0 km 11.7 km 1234567

1 Hobcarton End2 Grisedale Pike3 Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head)4 Sand Hill5 Hopegill Head6 Ladyside Pike7 Swinside

Easy 71%Moderate 23%Hard 5%Severe 1%

~598 m
Total ascent
762 m
High point
327 m
Start height

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap (switch layers top-right).

This walk covers about 11.7 km with around 598 m of ascent, taking in 7 summits. The map above shows the line; the elevation profile and stage notes are below.

Access & barriers

Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route? A quick read from the gates and stiles mapped along the way.

Dog
Mostly gates
Buggy
Not buggy-able
Knees
Steep in places
  • Dog: A stile of unmapped type — a dog may need lifting over.
  • Buggy: Stiles or rough going on the route.
  • Knees: A sustained ~25% descent around the 7.4 km mark — a little jarring on tired knees.

On the line: 1 gate · 2 stiles (type unmapped)

These are mapped barriers, from OpenStreetMap — coverage in the Lakes is good but not guaranteed complete. Spotted a stile or gate we’ve missed? Tell us (opens in new tab) and we’ll fix it. Barrier data as of 2026-07-26. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).

Pacing

SummitCumulativeAscentTime (fast–steady)
1Hobcarton End2.4 km309 m0:59–1:19
2Grisedale Pike3.4 km458 m1:27–1:56
3Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head)4.1 km458 m1:35–2:06
4Sand Hill4.8 km488 m1:47–2:22
5Hopegill Head5.1 km495 m1:51–2:28
6Ladyside Pike5.8 km495 m1:59–2:38
7Swinside7.3 km495 m2:17–3:02
Finish11.7 km598 m3:20–4:26

Naismith-based estimate — a fast/steady range. Your pace will vary. These use Naismith’s textbook constants (5 km/h, 600 m of ascent an hour). Measured against a pace fitted to 41 recorded Lakeland walks they run about 8% slow, and we have left them that way deliberately: a slow estimate strands nobody.

The walk, stage by stage

  1. 1

    Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park → Hobcarton End (2.4 km, 309 m)

    Climb of about 309 m over 2.4 km (around 13% average).

    Leave the Whinlatter visitor center and climb through the dense, sheltered forestry tracks. Once you break out of the tree line and cross the forest boundary, tackle the immediate, aggressive pull up the steep, heather-clad ridge that leads directly to the airy viewpoint of Hobcarton End

    Waypoints

    Whinlatter Forest trails, forest boundary fence, Hobcarton End summit (634m)

    Decision point

    The forestry tracks are heavily waymarked. Once you hit the open fell, the ridge line and the distinct deer fence act as an infallible, continuous handrail pointing straight up the spine of the hill to the first summit

    Easy to get wrong

    The transition from the sheltered, wind-blocked forestry tracks to the exposed open fell can be a jarring shock to the system, especially when westerly winds are howling. The path up the ridge is deeply rutted, steep, and heavily eroded in places, demanding a strenuous effort right out of the gate with zero time to warm up

    If you need to get off

    Simply turn around and descend the ridge back to the tree line. The Whinlatter Forest tracks provide immediate shelter from high winds and a secure, obvious route straight back to the car park

  2. 2

    Hobcarton End → Grisedale Pike (1.1 km, 149 m)

    Climb of about 149 m over 1.1 km (around 14% average).

    Continue south-west along the soaring ridge, hugging the edge as it curves above the precipitous Hobcarton crags. The path turns into a steep, rocky staircase, grinding up through loose scree and blocky volcanic rock to finally top out at the prominent summit cairn of Grisedale Pike

    Waypoints

    Hobcarton Crag (eastern rim), Grisedale Pike summit (791m)

    Decision point

    Keep the dramatic, sweeping drop of the Hobcarton basin on your right (west/north-west) as a massive visual guide. The heavily eroded, stony path leading to the summit cairn is unmistakable in all but deep snow

    Easy to get wrong

    The drops over Hobcarton Crag to your right are near-vertical and composed of crumbly, unstable rock. In winter, massive, treacherous cornices build up along this edge, so stay well back. The final pull to the summit of Grisedale Pike involves loose scree on a 14% gradient that will severely test the calves

    If you need to get off

    Before committing to the final steep pull, you can easily retreat along the ridge back to Hobcarton End. Do not attempt to bail east down the impossibly steep scree slopes of Sleet How from the summit unless you are specifically aiming for Braithwaite and know the descent path well

  3. 3

    Grisedale Pike → Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) (0.7 km, 0 m)

    Descent of about 64 m over 0.7 km.

    Drop south-west from the summit of Grisedale Pike down a heavily eroded, stony chute into a shallow, windswept saddle. From the depression, traverse the high-level rim of the cirque, rolling gently over the stony ground to reach the minor rocky bump that marks the true summit of Hobcarton Crag (also known as Hobcarton Head)

    Waypoints

    Grisedale Pike descent path, Hobcarton basin rim, Hobcarton Crag/Head summit (739m)

    Decision point

    The ridge path here is broad and well-defined. Maintain the horseshoe curve by keeping the sheer, yawning drop of the Hobcarton basin clearly on your right-hand side

    Easy to get wrong

    The initial descent off Grisedale Pike is notoriously loose; it consists of ball-bearing gravel over hard-packed dirt, making slips highly likely. This saddle acts as a massive wind tunnel, funneling south-westerly gales over the ridge that can easily buffet tired walkers off balance

    If you need to get off

    If the winds are too severe, reverse your route back over Grisedale Pike. If you must escape laterally, continuing forward to Coledale Hause provides the only safe, established descent into the valley systems; do not drop blindly into the ravines from the ridge itself

  4. 4

    Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) → Sand Hill (0.7 km, 31 m)

    Undulating section of about 0.7 km.

    Continue tracking the edge of the horseshoe, traversing the high, stony plateau above the Hobcarton valley. A short, somewhat loose pull up a stony slope brings you to the modest, rounded prominence of Sand Hill

    Waypoints

    Hobcarton cirque rim, Sand Hill summit (756m)

    Decision point

    The horseshoe ridge is geographically stark and impossible to lose. Use the continuous drop on your right (north) to guide you along the rim towards the looming, dramatic slab-face of Hopegill Head directly ahead

    Easy to get wrong

    As the name implies, Sand Hill features patches of loose, sandy scree that are frustratingly mobile underfoot. The exposure remains absolute along this unprotected ridge, offering zero shelter from incoming weather systems sweeping in from the Solway Firth

    If you need to get off

    Pushing forward to use the Coledale Hause descent (just south of Hopegill Head) is your most reliable bailout. Attempting to bail sideways off Sand Hill into the Hobcarton basin means dropping onto trackless, vertical crags

  5. 5

    Sand Hill → Hopegill Head (0.3 km, 6 m)

    Undulating section of about 0.3 km.

    Dip briefly from Sand Hill into a tiny rocky depression before tackling the short, sharp, hands-on scramble up the blocky slabs to reach the sensational, airy summit peak of Hopegill Head

    Waypoints

    Sand Hill depression, Hopegill Head summit (770m)

    Decision point

    The massive, tilted slabs of Hopegill Head are obvious. Trace the rocky crest upward, but strictly avoid wandering too far to the right (north) toward the sheer drop

    Easy to get wrong

    The final approach onto Hopegill Head requires a brief but exposed rocky scramble. The northern face of this mountain is a sheer, terrifying vertical drop directly into the Hobcarton basin; extreme care is needed near the summit cairn, especially if the slabby rock is slick with rain or ice

    If you need to get off

    From the summit, you can bail south-east down the heavily trodden, distinct path to Coledale Hause, which provides a highly reliable and safe descent route into either the Coledale or Lorton valleys

  6. 6

    Hopegill Head → Ladyside Pike (0.6 km, 0 m)

    Descent of about 57 m over 0.6 km.

    Leave the summit of Hopegill Head by dropping north-west, carefully down-climbing a rough, shattered rocky ridge. As the gradient eases, the rock transitions into a steep, grassy spur that leads directly out to the sharp, pointed summit of Ladyside Pike

    Waypoints

    Hopegill Head north-west ridge, Ladyside Pike summit (703m)

    Decision point

    The ridge line is incredibly sharp, narrow, and well-defined. Aim directly for the pointed peak of Ladyside Pike ahead of you, ensuring you do not stray into the dangerously steep, heather-choked gullies that fall away dramatically on either flank

    Easy to get wrong

    The initial descent off Hopegill Head is an exhilarating but demanding rocky scramble downwards. The Skiddaw slate here is famously fractured and sharp, requiring deliberate hand placements. Once you hit the grass towards Ladyside Pike, the ground can become surprisingly greasy, requiring caution not to slip

    If you need to get off

    Re-ascending the scramble back to Hopegill Head to utilize the Coledale Hause escape route is the safest bet if the weather suddenly turns. Attempting to drop blindly into the ravines flanking this specific ridge is highly dangerous

  7. 7

    Ladyside Pike → Swinside (1.5 km, 0 m)

    Descent of about 200 m over 1.5 km.

    Plunge off Ladyside Pike's northern nose, following a faint, grassy zig-zag path down the relentlessly steep shoulder. The punishing gradient eventually softens as you cross a minor depression and reach the rolling, modest prominence of Swinside

    Waypoints

    Ladyside Pike northern descent, connecting saddle, Swinside summit

    Decision point

    Follow the crest of the spur directly downwards. The sprawling, dark green blocks of the Whinlatter forestry plantations and the Lorton valley roads directly below serve as massive, unavoidable visual targets

    Easy to get wrong

    This descent is a notorious knee-destroyer. The gradient is aggressively steep over wet grass and loose soil, making walking poles highly advisable to absorb the impact and prevent taking a long slide. The bracken on the lower sections of Swinside can also be thick in the summer months

    If you need to get off

    You are completely committed to the descent route here. Keep plunging downhill on the grassy spur, strictly avoiding any lateral drifts into the steep, rocky stream gullies on either side

  8. Swinside → Finish (4.4 km, 104 m)

    Climb of about 104 m over 4.4 km (around 2% average).

    Continue descending from Swinside until you intersect the boundary of the Whinlatter Forest. Enter the woodland and navigate the sprawling network of undulating, hard-packed forestry tracks, winding your way back through the trees to reach the visitor center and car park

    Waypoints

    Swinside descent, Whinlatter Forest boundary, forestry track network, Whinlatter Pass (finish)

    Decision point

    Pay strict attention to Forestry Commission waymarkers and map junctions carefully. Keep the main Whinlatter Pass road (often visible or audible through the trees) as a general handrail to ensure you are continually trending back towards the visitor center

    Easy to get wrong

    While physically easy compared to the high fells, the labyrinth of forestry tracks can be deeply confusing. The sheer number of crossing logging roads makes it very easy to take a wrong turn and inadvertently add miles to your day. Stay alert for fast-moving mountain bikers who share these trails

    If you need to get off

    You are in a managed forest with extensive logging road access. Sticking to the main graded tracks is the fastest and safest way back to the start; avoid taking unmarked shortcuts through the dense, tangled pine blocks

Summits bagged (7)

  1. 1Hobcarton End634 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge
  2. 2Grisedale Pike790 mNorth Western · Wainwright, Birkett, Fellranger, Synge, Nuttall, Marilyn
  3. 3Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head)738 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge, Nuttall
  4. 4Sand Hill756 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge, Nuttall
  5. 5Hopegill Head770 mNorth Western · Wainwright, Birkett, Fellranger, Synge, Nuttall
  6. 6Ladyside Pike704 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge, Nuttall
  7. 7Swinside509 mNorth Western · Birkett

In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.

Getting there & parking

Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid) — 0.0 km from the start (straight line)
Forest centre — Lord's Seat, Barf, Whinlatter fells, Grisedale Pike's back route. Fees: First 20 min free; first hour £2.90; then £0.70 per 15 min; all-day max £14. ANPR pay-on-exit; blue badge holders not exempt; card at machine, cash at visitor centre, or Park with Ease online within 48h (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026). Open 08:30-20:30 (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026). Free for Forestry England members (checked Aug 2026).
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Tarbarrel Moss car park (paid) — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Hobcarton End, Grisedale Pike, Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) and Sand Hill — the 'Birketts around Grisedale Pike' route starts 53 m away. Also serves 'Whinlatter Forest: Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill & Seat How'. Paid parking (OSM-tagged).
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Whinlatter - Forestry England (paid) — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Hobcarton End, Grisedale Pike, Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) and Sand Hill — the 'Birketts around Grisedale Pike' route starts 59 m away. Also serves 'Whinlatter Forest: Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill & Seat How'. Paid parking (OSM-tagged).
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Revelin Moss, Whinlatter (Forestry England, paid) — 0.3 km from the start (straight line)
The second Whinlatter car park, 300 m along the pass from the visitor centre - ANPR controlled, open 08:30-20:30. Fees: FE page: charges apply to Whinlatter and Revelin Moss car parks; tariff as Whinlatter main (first 20 min free; first hour £2.90; £0.70 per 15 min; max £14). ANPR pay-on-exit (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026). Free for Forestry England members (checked Aug 2026).
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Whinlatter Top (verge) — 1.3 km from the start (straight line)
0.4 km from Whinlatter Top. Gravel verge.
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Positions are approximate. Lakeland car parks fill before 9am on fine weekends.

Vehicles are left entirely at their owner’s risk. We list places people park; we cannot vouch for any of them. Judge it on the day: take valuables with you, leave nothing on show, and if a spot feels wrong when you get there, park somewhere else.

Every option near this start, on the parking map →

Water, shelter & getting away

💧 Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is usually a tap or public supply, but never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock or a carcass upstream and leave you seriously ill. Run it through a filter or purifier (a LifeStraw, Sawyer Squeeze or HydraPak) or bring it to a rolling boil first.

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.

Buses

The 77 stops at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, 90 m from this start. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day, and it is not daily before then — a bus on 31 of the 56 days from 7 September. We don’t know when it returns. Confirmed with the operator, 29 August 2026. The last bus is 17:56 towards Keswick (77A) and 16:45 towards Cockermouth (77), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

The 77 passes this route at 0.1 km (Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, 10 m off the line).

Stagecoach 77 / 77A “Honister Rambler”
Keswick – Portinscale – Hawse End (Catbells) – Grange – Seatoller – Honister Pass – Buttermere – Lorton – Whinlatter – Keswick (circular)
Catch it from: Keswick (connect via 555 from Windermere/Ambleside or X4/X5 from Penrith)
Seasonal (roughly Easter–October). Brilliant for the North Western fells: Catbells, Dale Head from Honister, the Buttermere fells and Whinlatter.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.

If the parking is full

There is no real plan B here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so if one is full the others usually are too. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off.

  • Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid)
  • Hobcarton (free)
  • Whinlatter Top (verge)

Worked out from the parking we hold within walking reach of this route and the other walks each place serves — two places that serve the same walks fill for the same reasons. We are not saying whether anywhere has spaces today, and we never will: this is what exists, not what is free.

Toilets and refreshments

At Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), the closest parking we hold to where this route starts:

Distances are straight lines from the car park, not walking routes. Opening hours change; none of this is checked daily.

Safety & conditions

Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.

Make it easier or harder

Short version: turn back at about 5.8 km (drop to Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park) — roughly half the distance.

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Places to stay near this start

Croftlands Cottages (opens in new tab) guest house

about 1.9 km from the start, in a straight line

The best-answered page inside 2 km of the Whinlatter start, and the only one that solves the wet-boots-and-bikes problem explicitly: off-road parking beside the cottages, secure bike storage, and hosepipes for boots, bikes and paws. It also tells a driver something no sat nav will - that CA12 5SA covers the whole of Thornthwaite and will not find the cottage - and it puts the X5 bus stop outside the door, so a car-free party can reach the Grisedale Pike ground.

An osprey nest sits close enough that the birds can be watched from the cottage grounds between April and August, and the village bus shelter stands directly outside two of the three cottages.

  • Dogs “All three of our holiday cottages are dog friendly with Jasmine Cottage and Fox Howe being able to accommodate two each and Squirrel Cottage one.”
  • Family rooms “JASMINE COTTAGE (SLEEPS 4)”
  • Parking “Private off road parking beside the cottages”

Dancing Gate Cottage (opens in new tab) self-catering

about 4.2 km from the start, in a straight line

The only true drying room in the whole 3-mile radius, and it is paired with a tumble drier, a 3-bicycle stand and outdoor wash-off for bikes and dogs - the exact list a party coming off a wet Coledale round needs. It is also the only property here that states in its own words that it suits families as well as couples, and it sleeps seven across four bedrooms, so it takes a group that no B&B in the area can. Ranked above much closer properties on that basis; the 3-night minimum is the cost.

It is a former farmhouse still standing on a working farm, so guests share the yard with lambs, calves and horses depending on the season.

  • Drying room “There is a rear drying room for boots and coats and sportswear and a 3-bicycle stand for secure storage of bikes, plus a tumble drier.”
  • Dogs “Well-behaved dogs are very welcome and there are several pleasant walks in the nearby area.”
  • Family rooms “Double bedroom with king size bed and en-suite shower room - spacious electric shower, heated towel rail, washbasin with shaverlight and toilet. Twin-bedded room. Double bedded room. Single room.”
  • Children “The house is ideal for couples and families alike, sleeping up to 7 people - plenty of rooms but with a cosy atmosphere.”

High Swinside Holiday Cottages (opens in new tab) guest house

about 3.9 km from the start, in a straight line

The one property in the radius that can take a very large party - two of its three cottages connect through a lockable door to sleep eleven or twelve - and the only one with a stated EV charger, which matters for a group driving over Whinlatter Pass. It is on the Lorton side of the pass rather than the Braithwaite side, which is the quieter approach to Grisedale Pike's western Birketts, and the owner is close enough to call on.

The smallest of the three was built as a farm workers' cottage in the 1800s and still has its beamed ceilings; the Farmhouse next door can be linked to it through a lockable connecting door.

  • Dogs “Dog friendly”
  • Family rooms “Three Holiday Cottages sleeping 2, 5, or 9 (2 of the cottages can be connected to sleep 11-12)”

Braeside (opens in new tab) self-catering

about 4.5 km from the start, in a straight line

The most completely described interior in the radius, and it is described for people who come home wet: utility room with washing machine and tumble dryer, coat hooks, and dog towels put out for the end of a walk. Bike storage in the shed, parking for one car, pub 300 m and the owners' own tearoom directly downstairs - so an evening meal and a breakfast exist without moving the car. It states its dog charge and its 17:00 arrival up front.

The cottage sits directly above a tearoom the owners run themselves, and a full set of Wainwright guides is kept on the stairs for guests to borrow.

  • Dogs “2 dogs allowed. Dogs are charged at £20 each per full or part week”
  • Family rooms “3 bedrooms – 1 king-size, 1 double, 1 twin”
  • Evening meal “Even closer to hand (just downstairs!) is a tearoom . Run by us, this popular eatery allows you to treat yourself to breakfast, lunch or afternoon tea from a wide menu.”
  • Parking “Parking for one car in front of cottage, further free parking available on roadside subject to availbility”

What each place says about itself, quoted from their own site. We have not stayed at any of them, and there are no prices, no booking and no affiliate links. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

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