
Whinlatter Forest: Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill & Seat How
Photo: © Lee McCoy
Start Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park
Getting here Parking: Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), 0.1 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 77 and 77A stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 130 m walk from this start. The 77A runs until 1 November 2026, the last day of its season. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓
Hardest part Moderate navigation: Waymarked forest, but the network of forestry roads branches confusingly — easy to take the wrong spur in mist. Map and attention needed at junctions. Moderate – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet
Before you choose
- Whinlatter is a working forest laced with forestry roads that branch and re-cross — follow the waymarks and carry a map; junctions look alike, especially in mist.
- Shared with mountain-bike trails in places (including the Altura trail) — stay alert and give way to riders where paths cross.
- Occasional path diversions or machinery during active forestry operations.
- Tracks get muddy and slippery after rain.
- Forestry England posts felling areas and path diversions at Whinlatter on its Whinlatter updates page (last read 7 Oct 2026). Check it before you go, and follow the signs on the day.
Forestry England says (updated 1 Oct 2026) that the Seat How Summit (white) walking trail is diverted: follow the diversion signs. This route's GPX has not been checked against the diversion. Forestry England: Whinlatter updates (read 8 Oct 2026)
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By bus: the Honister Rambler (77/77A) (opens in new tab) reaches Whinlatter Visitor Centre at 09:55 and the last one back leaves from Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre at 17:56. At a steady pace this walk finishes about 12:24. Be off Seat How (Thornthwaite) by 14:35, to be down at least an hour before dusk on 1 November; that is earlier than the last bus needs. Seasonal: the 77’s last day is in Buses. The last bus is from the operator’s timetable, checked 12 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November. Check the timetable before you rely on it.
Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.
See also walking in bad weather and today’s conditions.
Route map
1 Tarbarrel Moss2 Ullister Hill3 Seat How (Thornthwaite)
Easy 100%ModerateHardSevere
Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.
Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).
The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.
The walk, stage by stage
- 1
Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park → Tarbarrel Moss (1.7 km, 170 m)
Leaving the bustling Whinlatter Visitor Centre, this route immediately climbs into the UK's only true mountain forest. You begin on wide, hard-packed gravel logging roads, providing a steady, reliable surface for the 9% average climb. As you gain elevation, the route peels off the main thoroughfares onto narrower, rougher paths that wind through mature coniferous plantations and sudden, exposed clear-felled zones, leading to the damp plateau of Tarbarrel Moss.
WaypointsStart Point: Whinlatter Forestry Commission Car Park / Visitor Centre (approx. NY 208 244). Lower Forestry Tracks: The initial wide, sweeping paths. Tarbarrel Moss (493 m): A flat, often boggy Birkett summit sitting on a wooded plateau.
Decision pointWaymarkers: Forestry England's own trail pages (linked from forestryengland.uk/whinlatter-forest/walking-trails-whinlatter, read 7 Oct 2026) tell walkers to follow orange waymarkers on its Comb Beck trail, white on Heavy Sides and Seat How Summit, black on Masmill Beck and yellow on Revelin Moss. Those markers lead round Forestry England's own trails, not this route, so do not follow them blindly where they part from your GPS track. Track Junctions: Pay strict attention to your map at every fork. The sheer density of identical-looking gravel roads makes taking a wrong turn incredibly easy.
Easy to get wrongMTB Hazards: Whinlatter is a premier mountain biking destination. You will frequently cross high-speed, one-way MTB trails (like the Altura Trail). Listen carefully for approaching bikes and never walk along the dedicated cycling singletrack. Forestry Operations: Active logging can suddenly close tracks or churn previously firm paths into impassable, deep mud. Pay attention to any diversion signs. The "Moss": As the name suggests, the immediate area around Tarbarrel Moss is a wetland. If you step off the main gravel tracks, expect deep, boot-swallowing bogs hidden beneath pine needles and thick moss. Do not attempt to bushwhack directly downhill through the trees if you lose the path; the undergrowth is choked with fallen timber and deep drainage ditches.
If you need to get offRetreat: Simply turn around and follow the wide, descending gravel tracks directly back to the visitor centre.
- 2
Tarbarrel Moss → Ullister Hill (1.7 km, 51 m)
A rolling, undulating traverse through the heart of the plantation. Leaving Tarbarrel Moss, the route follows a series of connecting saddles and firebreaks. The terrain alternates wildly between dense, dark avenues of sitka spruce and wide-open clear-felled sections that suddenly expose you to the wind but offer fleeting views of the Skiddaw massif. The paths here can be a mix of firm stone and deeply rutted, muddy forestry tracks.
WaypointsThe Firebreaks: The linear, treeless corridors separating plantation blocks. Ullister Hill Summit (524 m): A Birkett, typically marked by a small clearing or minor cairn amongst the trees/stumps.
Decision pointTree Lines & Compartment Boundaries: Use the sharp edges where mature forest meets clear-felled land as massive, linear handrails to orient yourself on the map.
Easy to get wrongClag & Tree Blindness: While you won't face open-fell whiteouts here, the forest blocks all line-of-sight navigation. Every junction looks identical, and GPS signals can occasionally bounce under heavy canopy. Deep Mud: The firebreaks between the managed gravel roads are often completely chewed up by forestry machinery. Expect heavy, slippery mud after wet weather.
If you need to get offRetreat: The way back this guide describes is the way you came. Forestry England diverts paths for felling, so follow the signs on the day.
- 3
Ullister Hill → Seat How (Thornthwaite) (0.8 km, 7 m)
A short, winding transition segment. The route leaves the higher elevations of Ullister Hill, dropping down through the trees to access the prominent, rocky spur of Seat How. The path narrows here, transitioning from wide logging roads to a dedicated, heavily-trodden foot trail that weaves tightly through the forest before a final, brief, rocky pull onto the viewpoint.
WaypointsThe Connecting Trail: The narrow footpath diverging from the main logging roads. Seat How Summit (495 m): A superb, prominent rocky Birkett crowned with a bench, offering one of the finest framed views of Bassenthwaite Lake and Skiddaw in the region.
Decision pointOfficial Signage: Seat How is a major destination for casual walkers from the visitor centre. Forestry England's Seat How Summit trail page (forestryengland.uk/whinlatter-forest/seat-how-summit-trail-whinlatter, read 7 Oct 2026) says "Follow white waymarkers". Those markers lead round its own trail, not this route.
Easy to get wrongSlippery Rock: The final few metres onto Seat How involve stepping up onto exposed rock. Beneath the tree canopy, this rock is often coated in damp moss and can be lethally slick. Exposed Edge: The northern and eastern faces of Seat How drop away sharply; keep a close eye on dogs and children near the viewpoint edge.
If you need to get offRetreat: No way off the Seat How spur has been checked for this guide; go back the way you came, and follow any diversion signs.
Seat How (Thornthwaite) → Finish (3.2 km, 33 m)
The final walk-out is a long, sweeping descent through the lower plantation. Leaving Seat How, you rejoin the main arterial forestry roads. The terrain is entirely hard-packed crushed gravel, zig-zagging in long, gentle switchbacks down the hillside, making for a fast, easy, but potentially foot-wearying return to the visitor centre.
WaypointsSeat How Descent Track: The main path dropping off the spur. Lower Switchbacks: The major track junctions on the lower fellside. Finish Point: Whinlatter Forestry Commission Car Park.
Decision pointTraffic Noise: The B5292 (Whinlatter Pass road) runs through the valley bottom. Visitor Centre Trail Map: For the way back to the café and car park, Forestry England's walking trails page (forestryengland.uk/whinlatter-forest/walking-trails-whinlatter, read 7 Oct 2026) says trail maps are available from the visitor centre, and describes numbered junction posts shown on its guide map. This guide has not checked those posts on the ground.
Easy to get wrongHard Surfaces: After walking on softer peat and mud, 3.2 km of continuous hard gravel can cause hot spots or blisters on tired feet. Mountain Bikes: As you near the visitor centre, the density of crossing MTB trails and casual cyclists increases significantly. Remain vigilant. At the major lower junctions, do NOT take tracks heading strictly East or North-East. These will drop you all the way down the mountain to the villages of Thornthwaite or Braithwaite (near the A66), resulting in a massive, steep climb back up the pass to retrieve your vehicle. Keep your heading trending South/South-West.
If you need to get offRetreat: This is your walk-out route. Keep following the main descending tracks.
GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked
Make it easier or harder
Easier: The easy access trails from the visitor centre give a shorter, signed alternative.
Harder: Link out to Lord's Seat and Barf, or over to Grisedale Pike, for a bigger north-western day.
Summits bagged (3)
- 1Tarbarrel Moss493 m
- 2Ullister Hill525 m
- 3Seat How (Thornthwaite)495 m
In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.
More about this walk
A rare sheltered option in the Lakes: mostly under trees, on solid tracks, with big views appearing at the tops. It starts from the Whinlatter visitor centre (café, parking and facilities). The three summits are Outlying/Birkett tops rather than Wainwrights.
Conditions and timing
Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.
Getting there and back
Parking
2 more places to park near the start
Positions are approximate.
Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.
If the parking is full
There is no real plan B by car here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off. The bus below is the exception: it is not limited by car-park space, though it runs to a timetable and can be full.
- Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid) — at the start
- Revelin Moss, Whinlatter (Forestry England, paid) — a 370 m walk to the start
- Tarbarrel Moss car park (paid) — at the start
- By bus: buses stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 130 m walk from the start. A bus is not affected by a full car park. Its return times are under Buses.
We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.
No signal when you get there? RoutePark keeps this list on your phone: choose this walk’s GPX at home, keep it, and it opens offline.
Buses
The 77 and 77A stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 130 m walk from this start. The 77A runs until 1 November 2026, the last day of its season. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. It returns on 22 March 2027. Confirmed with the operator: its last day on 29 August 2026, its return on 16 October 2026. The last bus is 17:56 towards Keswick (77A) and 16:45 towards Cockermouth (77), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.
The 77 passes this route at 0.1 km (Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, 60 m off the line).
Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.
Toilets and refreshments
The essentials
- Arrival Whinlatter visitor centre car park (Forestry England), about 55 m from the start: the first 20 minutes free, £2.90 for the first hour, then 70p per 15 minutes, £14 all day; free for members. Pay on exit, by card at the machine or cash at the visitor centre. 53 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (Forestry England, Whinlatter, checked 11 August 2026)
- Toilets Toilets are mapped beside the start. 8 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Refreshments Café Ambio is mapped beside the start. OpenStreetMap gives its hours as 09:30 to 16:00 on weekdays and 09:30 to 16:30 at weekends: check before you rely on them. 17 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Limitation A working forest: its roads branch and re-cross, and junctions look alike in mist, so follow the waymarks and carry a map. Forestry England posts felling, diversions and storm closures on its updates page: check it before you go. (our route notes (this route's own warnings); Forestry England, Whinlatter updates, checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start
At Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), the closest parking we hold to where this route starts:
Distances are straight lines from the car park, not walking routes. Opening hours change; none of this is checked daily.
Water, shelter & getting away
Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is not proof the water is drinkable, so carry your own or use a supply you know is safe. Never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock upstream and leave you seriously ill. Use a treatment method suited to what might be in the water, and follow the device’s own instructions. Boiling and ordinary filters do not make water with dissolved metals or chemicals safe: where that is possible, choose another source.
On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.
Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat
Planning detail
How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.
Difficulty profile
Moderate overall — hardest: Navigation (our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet); terrain not assessed
Five independent axes, not one score. This route has not been walked yet, so none of them was set on the ground: two of the five are our judgement from the map and the route’s record, and the rest are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.
How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.
Pacing
| Summit | Cumulative | Ascent | Time (fast–steady) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1Tarbarrel Moss | 1.7 km | 170 m | 0:37–0:49 |
| 2Ullister Hill | 3.4 km | 221 m | 1:02–1:23 |
| 3Seat How (Thornthwaite) | 4.1 km | 228 m | 1:13–1:36 |
| Finish | 7.3 km | 261 m | 1:54–2:32 |
A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.
Access & barriers
Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?
- Buggy: Not a pushchair route.
- Knees: No sustained steep descent in the track’s height model (steepest 250 m about 17%). Steps, wet rock and the surface underfoot are not assessed; your own knees still matter.
With a dog
Hardest for a dog here: stiles and gates. The steepest stretch is a sustained descent of about 15% around the 4.6 km mark.
- Stiles and gates: A stile of unmapped type at 0.9 km — a dog may need lifting over. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 9 July 2026)
- Rock and scrambling: Ground underfoot: Not assessed.
- Drops and exposed ground: Easy – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet. The forest paths have no exposure, but the Seat How viewpoint drops away sharply on its north and east sides: keep dogs and children close there.
- Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
- Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.
On the line: 1 gate · 1 stile (type unmapped)
Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 9 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).
Places to stay near this start
- Croftlands Cottages (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 1.9 km
- Dancing Gate Cottage (opens in new tab) self-cateringabout 4.2 km
- High Swinside Holiday Cottages (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 3.9 km
- Braeside (opens in new tab) self-cateringabout 4.5 km
We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).
Walks from places nearby
- Walks from Whinlatter Forest — 0.1 km from this start
- Walks from Braithwaite — 2.5 km from this start
Straight-line distance from this walk’s start. Those lists hold the routes we have mapped and every Wainwright and Outlying fell within about 5 km of the town, ranked nearest first.