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Looking straight up through the conifer canopy in Whinlatter Forest, moss on the trunks and bright overcast sky between the branches
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Whinlatter Forest: Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill & Seat How

7.32 km
Distance
~1¾–2¾ h
Estimated time
~261 m
Ascent
3
Summits

Photo: © Lee McCoy

A sheltered forest loop above Whinlatter, climbing on good tracks through the plantation to a trio of low, easily-missed tops. Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill and rocky little Seat How give sudden, outsized views to Skiddaw, Grisedale Pike and the north-western fells for barely 250 m of climbing.

Start Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park

Getting here Parking: Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), 0.1 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 77 and 77A stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 130 m walk from this start. The 77A runs until 1 November 2026, the last day of its season. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓

Hardest part Moderate navigation: Waymarked forest, but the network of forestry roads branches confusingly — easy to take the wrong spur in mist. Map and attention needed at junctions. Moderate – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet

Before you choose

  • Whinlatter is a working forest laced with forestry roads that branch and re-cross — follow the waymarks and carry a map; junctions look alike, especially in mist.
  • Shared with mountain-bike trails in places (including the Altura trail) — stay alert and give way to riders where paths cross.
  • Occasional path diversions or machinery during active forestry operations.
  • Tracks get muddy and slippery after rain.
  • Forestry England posts felling areas and path diversions at Whinlatter on its Whinlatter updates page (last read 7 Oct 2026). Check it before you go, and follow the signs on the day.
Planned route — drawn but not personally walked or checked yet. A route line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

Forestry England says (updated 1 Oct 2026) that the Seat How Summit (white) walking trail is diverted: follow the diversion signs. This route's GPX has not been checked against the diversion. Forestry England: Whinlatter updates (read 8 Oct 2026)

Download GPX →Planned route · not yet walked

Daylight & turnaround

By bus: the Honister Rambler (77/77A) (opens in new tab) reaches Whinlatter Visitor Centre at 09:55 and the last one back leaves from Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre at 17:56. At a steady pace this walk finishes about 12:24. Be off Seat How (Thornthwaite) by 14:35, to be down at least an hour before dusk on 1 November; that is earlier than the last bus needs. Seasonal: the 77’s last day is in Buses. The last bus is from the operator’s timetable, checked 12 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November. Check the timetable before you rely on it.

Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.

Route map

OpenTopoMap
Elevation profile, shaded by steepness
Elevation profile Rises from about 324 m to 518 m over 7.3 km, with the summits marked in order. The area beneath is shaded by sustained steepness over a 500 m window, in the same four bands as the route’s steepness rating: Easy under 15%, Moderate 15 to 25%, Hard 25 to 35%, Severe above 35%. 518 m 324 m 0 km 7.3 km 123

1 Tarbarrel Moss2 Ullister Hill3 Seat How (Thornthwaite)

Easy 100%ModerateHardSevere

518 m
High point
325 m
Start height

Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).

The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.

The walk, stage by stage

  1. 1

    Whinlatter - Forestry Commission Car Park → Tarbarrel Moss (1.7 km, 170 m)

    Climb of about 170 m over 1.7 km (around 10% average).

    Leaving the bustling Whinlatter Visitor Centre, this route immediately climbs into the UK's only true mountain forest. You begin on wide, hard-packed gravel logging roads, providing a steady, reliable surface for the 9% average climb. As you gain elevation, the route peels off the main thoroughfares onto narrower, rougher paths that wind through mature coniferous plantations and sudden, exposed clear-felled zones, leading to the damp plateau of Tarbarrel Moss.

    Waypoints

    Start Point: Whinlatter Forestry Commission Car Park / Visitor Centre (approx. NY 208 244). Lower Forestry Tracks: The initial wide, sweeping paths. Tarbarrel Moss (493 m): A flat, often boggy Birkett summit sitting on a wooded plateau.

    Decision point

    Waymarkers: Forestry England's own trail pages (linked from forestryengland.uk/whinlatter-forest/walking-trails-whinlatter, read 7 Oct 2026) tell walkers to follow orange waymarkers on its Comb Beck trail, white on Heavy Sides and Seat How Summit, black on Masmill Beck and yellow on Revelin Moss. Those markers lead round Forestry England's own trails, not this route, so do not follow them blindly where they part from your GPS track. Track Junctions: Pay strict attention to your map at every fork. The sheer density of identical-looking gravel roads makes taking a wrong turn incredibly easy.

    Easy to get wrong

    MTB Hazards: Whinlatter is a premier mountain biking destination. You will frequently cross high-speed, one-way MTB trails (like the Altura Trail). Listen carefully for approaching bikes and never walk along the dedicated cycling singletrack. Forestry Operations: Active logging can suddenly close tracks or churn previously firm paths into impassable, deep mud. Pay attention to any diversion signs. The "Moss": As the name suggests, the immediate area around Tarbarrel Moss is a wetland. If you step off the main gravel tracks, expect deep, boot-swallowing bogs hidden beneath pine needles and thick moss. Do not attempt to bushwhack directly downhill through the trees if you lose the path; the undergrowth is choked with fallen timber and deep drainage ditches.

    If you need to get off

    Retreat: Simply turn around and follow the wide, descending gravel tracks directly back to the visitor centre.

  2. 2

    Tarbarrel Moss → Ullister Hill (1.7 km, 51 m)

    Undulating section of about 1.7 km.

    A rolling, undulating traverse through the heart of the plantation. Leaving Tarbarrel Moss, the route follows a series of connecting saddles and firebreaks. The terrain alternates wildly between dense, dark avenues of sitka spruce and wide-open clear-felled sections that suddenly expose you to the wind but offer fleeting views of the Skiddaw massif. The paths here can be a mix of firm stone and deeply rutted, muddy forestry tracks.

    Waypoints

    The Firebreaks: The linear, treeless corridors separating plantation blocks. Ullister Hill Summit (524 m): A Birkett, typically marked by a small clearing or minor cairn amongst the trees/stumps.

    Decision point

    Tree Lines & Compartment Boundaries: Use the sharp edges where mature forest meets clear-felled land as massive, linear handrails to orient yourself on the map.

    Easy to get wrong

    Clag & Tree Blindness: While you won't face open-fell whiteouts here, the forest blocks all line-of-sight navigation. Every junction looks identical, and GPS signals can occasionally bounce under heavy canopy. Deep Mud: The firebreaks between the managed gravel roads are often completely chewed up by forestry machinery. Expect heavy, slippery mud after wet weather.

    If you need to get off

    Retreat: The way back this guide describes is the way you came. Forestry England diverts paths for felling, so follow the signs on the day.

  3. 3

    Ullister Hill → Seat How (Thornthwaite) (0.8 km, 7 m)

    Undulating section of about 0.8 km.

    A short, winding transition segment. The route leaves the higher elevations of Ullister Hill, dropping down through the trees to access the prominent, rocky spur of Seat How. The path narrows here, transitioning from wide logging roads to a dedicated, heavily-trodden foot trail that weaves tightly through the forest before a final, brief, rocky pull onto the viewpoint.

    Waypoints

    The Connecting Trail: The narrow footpath diverging from the main logging roads. Seat How Summit (495 m): A superb, prominent rocky Birkett crowned with a bench, offering one of the finest framed views of Bassenthwaite Lake and Skiddaw in the region.

    Decision point

    Official Signage: Seat How is a major destination for casual walkers from the visitor centre. Forestry England's Seat How Summit trail page (forestryengland.uk/whinlatter-forest/seat-how-summit-trail-whinlatter, read 7 Oct 2026) says "Follow white waymarkers". Those markers lead round its own trail, not this route.

    Easy to get wrong

    Slippery Rock: The final few metres onto Seat How involve stepping up onto exposed rock. Beneath the tree canopy, this rock is often coated in damp moss and can be lethally slick. Exposed Edge: The northern and eastern faces of Seat How drop away sharply; keep a close eye on dogs and children near the viewpoint edge.

    If you need to get off

    Retreat: No way off the Seat How spur has been checked for this guide; go back the way you came, and follow any diversion signs.

  4. Seat How (Thornthwaite) → Finish (3.2 km, 33 m)

    Descent of about 169 m over 3.2 km.

    The final walk-out is a long, sweeping descent through the lower plantation. Leaving Seat How, you rejoin the main arterial forestry roads. The terrain is entirely hard-packed crushed gravel, zig-zagging in long, gentle switchbacks down the hillside, making for a fast, easy, but potentially foot-wearying return to the visitor centre.

    Waypoints

    Seat How Descent Track: The main path dropping off the spur. Lower Switchbacks: The major track junctions on the lower fellside. Finish Point: Whinlatter Forestry Commission Car Park.

    Decision point

    Traffic Noise: The B5292 (Whinlatter Pass road) runs through the valley bottom. Visitor Centre Trail Map: For the way back to the café and car park, Forestry England's walking trails page (forestryengland.uk/whinlatter-forest/walking-trails-whinlatter, read 7 Oct 2026) says trail maps are available from the visitor centre, and describes numbered junction posts shown on its guide map. This guide has not checked those posts on the ground.

    Easy to get wrong

    Hard Surfaces: After walking on softer peat and mud, 3.2 km of continuous hard gravel can cause hot spots or blisters on tired feet. Mountain Bikes: As you near the visitor centre, the density of crossing MTB trails and casual cyclists increases significantly. Remain vigilant. At the major lower junctions, do NOT take tracks heading strictly East or North-East. These will drop you all the way down the mountain to the villages of Thornthwaite or Braithwaite (near the A66), resulting in a massive, steep climb back up the pass to retrieve your vehicle. Keep your heading trending South/South-West.

    If you need to get off

    Retreat: This is your walk-out route. Keep following the main descending tracks.

Download GPX

GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked

Make it easier or harder

Easier: The easy access trails from the visitor centre give a shorter, signed alternative.

Harder: Link out to Lord's Seat and Barf, or over to Grisedale Pike, for a bigger north-western day.

Summits bagged (3)

  1. 1Tarbarrel Moss493 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge
  2. 2Ullister Hill525 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge
  3. 3Seat How (Thornthwaite)495 mNorth Western · Birkett, Synge

In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.

More about this walk

A lower option under the trees when the high tops are in cloud; Forestry England can close the forest in storms and divert paths for felling, so check before you go.

A rare sheltered option in the Lakes: mostly under trees, on solid tracks, with big views appearing at the tops. It starts from the Whinlatter visitor centre (café, parking and facilities). The three summits are Outlying/Birkett tops rather than Wainwrights.

Conditions and timing

Best season Year-round, and one of the better bad-weather choices — the trees take the sting out of wind and rain. Tracks can be muddy, and forest operations occasionally divert paths, so check signage at the visitor centre.

Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.

Getting there and back

Parking

Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid) — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Forest centre — Lord's Seat, Barf, Whinlatter fells, Grisedale Pike's back route. Fees: First 20 min free; first hour £2.90; then £0.70 per 15 min; all-day max £14. ANPR pay-on-exit; blue badge holders not exempt; card at machine, cash at visitor centre, or Park with Ease online within 48h (Forestry England, checked August 2026). Open 08:30-20:30 (Forestry England, checked August 2026). Free for Forestry England members (checked August 2026).
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Tarbarrel Moss car park (paid) — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Hobcarton End, Grisedale Pike, Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) and Sand Hill — the 'Birketts around Grisedale Pike' route starts 53 m away. Also serves 'Whinlatter Forest: Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill & Seat How'. Paid parking (OSM-tagged).
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Whinlatter - Forestry England (paid) — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Hobcarton End, Grisedale Pike, Hobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head) and Sand Hill — the 'Birketts around Grisedale Pike' route starts 59 m away. Also serves 'Whinlatter Forest: Tarbarrel Moss, Ullister Hill & Seat How'. Paid parking (OSM-tagged).
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2 more places to park near the start
Revelin Moss, Whinlatter (Forestry England, paid) — 0.3 km from the start (straight line)
The second Whinlatter car park, 300 m along the pass from the visitor centre - ANPR controlled, open 08:30-20:30. Fees: FE page: charges apply to Whinlatter and Revelin Moss car parks; tariff as Whinlatter main (first 20 min free; first hour £2.90; £0.70 per 15 min; max £14). ANPR pay-on-exit (Forestry England, checked August 2026). Free for Forestry England members (checked August 2026).
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Whinlatter Top (verge) — 1.3 km from the start (straight line)
0.4 km from Whinlatter Top. Gravel verge.
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Positions are approximate.

Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.

Every option near this start, on the parking map →

If the parking is full

There is no real plan B by car here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off. The bus below is the exception: it is not limited by car-park space, though it runs to a timetable and can be full.

  • Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid) — at the start
  • Revelin Moss, Whinlatter (Forestry England, paid) — a 370 m walk to the start
  • Tarbarrel Moss car park (paid) — at the start
  • By bus: buses stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 130 m walk from the start. A bus is not affected by a full car park. Its return times are under Buses.

We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.

No signal when you get there? RoutePark keeps this list on your phone: choose this walk’s GPX at home, keep it, and it opens offline.

Buses

The 77 and 77A stop at Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, a 130 m walk from this start. The 77A runs until 1 November 2026, the last day of its season. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. It returns on 22 March 2027. Confirmed with the operator: its last day on 29 August 2026, its return on 16 October 2026. The last bus is 17:56 towards Keswick (77A) and 16:45 towards Cockermouth (77), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

The 77 passes this route at 0.1 km (Whinlatter, in Visitors Centre, 60 m off the line).

Stagecoach 77 / 77A “Honister Rambler”
Keswick – Portinscale – Hawes End (Catbells) – Grange – Seatoller – Honister Pass – Buttermere – Lorton – Whinlatter – Keswick (circular)
Catch it from: Keswick (connect via 555 from Windermere/Ambleside or X4/X5 from Penrith)
Seasonal (Summer 2026 timetable: 23 March to 1 November 2026). Brilliant for the North Western fells: Catbells, Dale Head from Honister, the Buttermere fells and Whinlatter.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.

Toilets and refreshments

The essentials

  • Arrival Whinlatter visitor centre car park (Forestry England), about 55 m from the start: the first 20 minutes free, £2.90 for the first hour, then 70p per 15 minutes, £14 all day; free for members. Pay on exit, by card at the machine or cash at the visitor centre. 53 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (Forestry England, Whinlatter, checked 11 August 2026)
  • Toilets Toilets are mapped beside the start. 8 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
  • Refreshments Café Ambio is mapped beside the start. OpenStreetMap gives its hours as 09:30 to 16:00 on weekdays and 09:30 to 16:30 at weekends: check before you rely on them. 17 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
  • Limitation A working forest: its roads branch and re-cross, and junctions look alike in mist, so follow the waymarks and carry a map. Forestry England posts felling, diversions and storm closures on its updates page: check it before you go. (our route notes (this route's own warnings); Forestry England, Whinlatter updates, checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start

At Whinlatter Visitor Centre (paid), the closest parking we hold to where this route starts:

Distances are straight lines from the car park, not walking routes. Opening hours change; none of this is checked daily.

Water, shelter & getting away

possible water source (opens in new tab) (2 m off the line) Visitors Centre (opens in new tab) (93 m from the start, straight line)

Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is not proof the water is drinkable, so carry your own or use a supply you know is safe. Never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock upstream and leave you seriously ill. Use a treatment method suited to what might be in the water, and follow the device’s own instructions. Boiling and ordinary filters do not make water with dissolved metals or chemicals safe: where that is possible, choose another source.

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.

Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat

Planning detail

How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.

Difficulty profile

Moderate overall — hardest: Navigation (our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet); terrain not assessed

LengthEasy7.32 km — a short outing.
SteepnessEasySteepest sustained descent about 15% around the 4.6 km mark.
TerrainNot assessedThe map holds no grading for what is underfoot on this line, so we don’t guess. A rating appears once the ground is assessed.
NavigationModerateWaymarked forest, but the network of forestry roads branches confusingly — easy to take the wrong spur in mist. Map and attention needed at junctions. Moderate – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet
ExposureEasyThe forest paths have no exposure, but the Seat How viewpoint drops away sharply on its north and east sides: keep dogs and children close there. Easy – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet

Five independent axes, not one score. This route has not been walked yet, so none of them was set on the ground: two of the five are our judgement from the map and the route’s record, and the rest are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.

How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.

Pacing

SummitCumulativeAscentTime (fast–steady)
1Tarbarrel Moss1.7 km170 m0:37–0:49
2Ullister Hill3.4 km221 m1:02–1:23
3Seat How (Thornthwaite)4.1 km228 m1:13–1:36
Finish7.3 km261 m1:54–2:32

A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.

Access & barriers

Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?

Dog
Stiles on the line
Buggy
Not buggy-able
Knees
No steep descent mapped
  • Buggy: Not a pushchair route.
  • Knees: No sustained steep descent in the track’s height model (steepest 250 m about 17%). Steps, wet rock and the surface underfoot are not assessed; your own knees still matter.

With a dog

Hardest for a dog here: stiles and gates. The steepest stretch is a sustained descent of about 15% around the 4.6 km mark.

  • Stiles and gates: A stile of unmapped type at 0.9 km — a dog may need lifting over. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 9 July 2026)
  • Rock and scrambling: Ground underfoot: Not assessed.
  • Drops and exposed ground: Easy – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet. The forest paths have no exposure, but the Seat How viewpoint drops away sharply on its north and east sides: keep dogs and children close there.
  • Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
  • Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.

On the line: 1 gate · 1 stile (type unmapped)

Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 9 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).

Places to stay near this start

We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

Walks from places nearby

Straight-line distance from this walk’s start. Those lists hold the routes we have mapped and every Wainwright and Outlying fell within about 5 km of the town, ranked nearest first.

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