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Brown Rigg & Blea Tarn

13.49 km
Distance
~3½–4¾ h
Estimated time
~509 m
Ascent
4
Summits
Four tops on the boggy watershed above Thirlmere — Brown Rigg, Shivery Knott, Middle Crag and High Tove — in 13.5 km with 509 m of climbing. Rated hard to navigate, which is the whole character of this ground. About 3½–4¾ hours.

Start Dob Gill, Thirlmere

Getting here Parking: Dob Gill, Thirlmere (United Utilities, paid), 0.0 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 555 stops at Thirlmere, at Armboth turn; from there it is 1.8 km and 54 m of ascent to this start. And the same back: about 17.0 km in all, with the walk. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓

Hardest part Hard terrain: A trackless expanse of peat and reeds, boggy throughout, with a slick, steep grass descent off the plateau. Hard – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet Hard navigation: Care needed in cloud — ~34% featureless high ground. Hard – estimated from the map, not checked on the ground

Before you choose

Planned route — drawn but not personally walked or checked yet. A route line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.
Download GPX →Planned route · not yet walked

Conditions on this route

We score every Lakeland Wainwright each morning on cloud, wind, rain and underfoot, and this route crosses 1 of them. The worst summit governs the verdict — a route is only as kind as its roughest top.

Modelled guidance — not a substitute for the mountain forecast or your own judgement. See how every fell ranks today →

Daylight & turnaround

Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.

Route map

OpenTopoMap
Elevation profile, shaded by steepness
Elevation profile Rises from about 186 m to 534 m over 13.5 km, with the summits marked in order. The area beneath is shaded by sustained steepness over a 500 m window, in the same four bands as the route’s steepness rating: Easy under 15%, Moderate 15 to 25%, Hard 25 to 35%, Severe above 35%. 534 m 186 m 0 km 13.5 km 1234

1 Brown Rigg2 Shivery Knott3 Middle Crag4 High Tove

Easy 88%Moderate 12%HardSevere

534 m
High point
196 m
Start height

Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).

The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.

The walk, stage by stage

  1. 1

    Dob Gill, Thirlmere → Brown Rigg (2.6 km, 266 m)

    Climb of about 266 m over 2.6 km (around 10% average).

    The Dob Gill car park is closed (Lee, 25 Sep 2026); the nearest other car park we list is Steel End, about 1.3 km away on foot, at the south end of the lake. From the valley floor, tackle the steep, wooded or bracken-clad lower slopes to gain the lip of the hanging valley. Pass the secluded, dark waters of Blea Tarn before leaving the established paths to strike across the pathless, spongy moorland, making a steady pull up to the minor, indistinct summit of Brown Rigg.

    Waypoints

    Valley floor intake, Blea Tarn (vicinity), Brown Rigg summit.

    Decision point

    Blea Tarn acts as a massive catching feature on the ascent. Once past the water, rely on a strict compass bearing, as the faint sheep trods simply vanish into the sphagnum moss and there are no defining crags to aim for.

    Easy to get wrong

    The initial ascent is a steep pull that quickly transitions into the notoriously wet, energy-sapping terrain of the central plateau. Brown Rigg is barely a hill—it is a slight swelling in a vast ocean of peat and reeds. The ground is heavily waterlogged, requiring constant detours around hidden black bogs right from the outset.

    If you need to get off

    Simply turn around and retrace your steps past Blea Tarn, picking up the engineered descent path back down to the valley floor.

  2. 2

    Brown Rigg → Shivery Knott (3.6 km, 144 m)

    Climb of about 144 m, then a descent of about 54 m, over 3.6 km.

    Embark on a grueling, 3.6 km trek across the bleak, featureless expanse of the central moorland: the line runs south-west and then west at first, before swinging north-west and finally north. The route traverses the sprawling, wet depression of Long Moss, linking minor heather hummocks before reaching the tiny, rocky outcrop of Shivery Knott.

    Waypoints

    Brown Rigg, Long Moss, Watendlath Fell (vicinity), Shivery Knott.

    Decision point

    The sheer lack of features makes this a navigational trap in low visibility. Keep the distant forested slopes of Thirlmere in your mind as an eastern boundary, and rely heavily on pacing and strict compass bearings, and expect to change bearing more than once - this leg is not a straight line.

    Easy to get wrong

    This is one of the most soul-destroying, trackless sections of the Lake District. The 4% gradient is entirely hidden within a chaotic maze of waist-deep peat hags and hidden pools of black water. Establishing a walking rhythm is impossible; it is a relentless, fatiguing battle of micro-navigation to keep your boots dry.

    If you need to get off

    No way off this moor has been checked for this guide. Do not drop east towards the Thirlmere forestry, where the ground is steep; the ways this guide describes are on to Shivery Knott or back the way you came.

  3. 3

    Shivery Knott → Middle Crag (0.5 km, 8 m)

    Undulating section of about 0.5 km.

    From Shivery Knott, hop a very short distance north over heavily rutted, peaty ground, crossing a minor depression to reach the slightly more pronounced, blocky outcrop of Middle Crag.

    Waypoints

    Shivery Knott, Middle Crag.

    Decision point

    Middle Crag is visible from Shivery Knott in clear weather. Just aim for the nearest distinct patch of gray rock jutting out of the green and brown moor.

    Easy to get wrong

    The incredibly short distance means you are constantly stopping and starting to tick off these minor Birketts. The rocky top of Middle Crag offers a brief, glorious respite from the saturated sponge of the surrounding moor, though the stones can be slick when wet.

    If you need to get off

    As with the previous tops, do not try to bail east from here, where the forestry drops are complex and steep; the ways this guide describes are on to High Tove or back the way you came; no way down to Watendlath from here has been checked.

  4. 4

    Middle Crag → High Tove (0.7 km, 42 m)

    Undulating section of about 0.7 km.

    Leave Middle Crag and make a short, squelchy pull northwards. Cross the final, notoriously wet saddle of the central ridge before stepping up onto the broad, flat, and heavily eroded summit of High Tove.

    Waypoints

    Middle Crag, High Tove summit (515m).

    Decision point

    High Tove is marked by an intersection of faint, muddy paths (the historic crossing between Watendlath and Thirlmere) and a modest pile of stones. It is the most distinct summit on this section of the plateau.

    Easy to get wrong

    High Tove is infamous among fellwalkers as the king of the bogs. The summit area is a sprawling morass of liquid black peat and deep heather; you will be forced to skirt the edges of the worst ground to avoid sinking to your knees in the mire.

    If you need to get off

    High Tove is a crossing of paths. The path west goes down to Watendlath, in a different valley from your start, so it needs its own plan for getting back; no way off here has been checked for this guide as an escape.

  5. High Tove → Finish (6.1 km, 48 m)

    Descent of about 322 m, with about 48 m of climbing, over 6.1 km.

    Plunge off the central ridge, descending steeply down the fellside to intersect the established valley floor paths. From here, embark on a long, rolling, low-level walk-out, tracing the valley boundary walls and following the solid, stony farm tracks back to your starting point.

    Waypoints

    High Tove descent, valley intake walls, valley floor track, finish point.

    Decision point

    Aim for the distinct boundary walls at the base of the fell. Once you pass through the fell gate and hit the main valley track, the main valley track leads you back to the start.

    Easy to get wrong

    The initial descent off the boggy plateau is steep and can be remarkably slick on wet grass, punishing tired knees. The subsequent 6.1 km walk-out is a massive distance; while the gradient is flat, the hard, stony farm tracks will feel unforgiving on feet that have spent the entire day battling soft peat.

    If you need to get off

    You are on the final escape route. Simply stick strictly to the main valley track, avoiding the temptation to cut corners through the private, walled pastures or commercial forestry flanking the route.

Download GPX

GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked

Summits bagged (4)

  1. 1Brown Rigg462 mCentral · Birkett, Synge
  2. 2Shivery Knott491 mCentral · Birkett
  3. 3Middle Crag484 mCentral · Birkett, Synge
  4. 4High Tove515 mCentral · Wainwright, Birkett, Fellranger, Synge

In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.

Keep to the built line. The notes on this route mention eroded or braided ground. Where it is mud or standing water, walk through the puddle rather than round it, stay on the pitched stone even where it is a staircase you would rather not use, take the zig-zags the long way, leave loose stones and cross-drains where they lie, and build no cairns. Deep or moving water is a different question — turn back or take the safest way past rather than wade for the sake of a path. Fix the Fells’ volunteers keep these paths: what a metre costs, and how to give a day or a few pounds.

Conditions and timing

Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.

When the sun reaches the tops

Not sunrise — the moment the sun clears the skyline from that summit, which on a fell with high ground to its east can be a good deal later.

  • High Tove — in late March the sun reaches it around 06:45, about half an hour later. In late September, about 07:30. It waits longest in late March — about half an hour after sunrise. In late December, not until about 08:45.
How to read these times

The two equinoxes are shown because they fall in the walking season, and late December too wherever a top keeps you waiting then; the clock gap between the equinoxes is British Summer Time, not the hill. Rounded to the nearest quarter hour and meant as a general idea, not a schedule.

Modelled from a 30 m elevation model against each summit’s own skyline — the same figures the fell pages carry, never observed. Cloud is not in it.

Getting there and back

Parking

Dob Gill, Thirlmere (United Utilities, paid) — 0.0 km from the start (straight line)
Closed (Lee, 25 September 2026); the LDNP directory in August 2026 said pedestrian access is allowed. The Authority's directory (read 12 September 2026) says walkers may still use the seasonal toilets here. Steel End, about 1.3 km away, is the nearest other car park we list. West shore of Thirlmere - Harrop Tarn and Ullscarf. When open: pay and display; coins and cards (LDNP directory, checked August 2026); pay and display (visitlakedistrict.com) (United Utilities, checked August 2026).
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If it is full: Steel End, Thirlmere (paid) (1.3 km, 42 m up); Wythburn Church, Thirlmere (paid) (2.4 km, 87 m up)
Steel End, Thirlmere (paid) — 1.2 km from the start (straight line)
South end of Thirlmere for the Wythburn valley and Armboth fells. Fees: pay and display (Lake District National Park car-parks directory, checked August 2026). Pay and display (visitlakedistrict.com); named as a UU Thirlmere car park on unitedutilities.com, which states no fee details (United Utilities, checked August 2026).
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Fisher Crag (layby, south) — 1.9 km from the start (straight line)
0.7 km from Fisher Crag.
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1 more place to park near the start
Fisher Crag (layby, north) — 2.0 km from the start (straight line)
0.6 km from Fisher Crag.
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Positions are approximate.

Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.

Every option near this start, on the parking map →

If the parking is full

There is no real plan B here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off.

  • Armboth, Thirlmere (United Utilities, paid) — joins the loop at about km 9.5 of 13.5: a 200 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
  • Fisher Crag (layby, south) — joins the loop at about km 11 of 13.5: a 30 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
  • Fisher Crag (verge) — joins the loop at about km 10.6 of 13.5: a 110 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there

We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.

No signal when you get there? RoutePark keeps this list on your phone: choose this walk’s GPX at home, keep it, and it opens offline.

Buses

The 555 stops at Thirlmere, at Armboth turn. From there it is 1.8 km and 54 m of ascent to this start — a walk in before the walk. And the same back: about 17.0 km in all, with the walk. Last bus: Monday to Friday 20:55 towards Keswick (555); Saturday 20:55 towards Keswick (555); Sunday 18:46 towards Keswick (555). Checked against the operator’s timetable, 7 September 2026; that timetable runs to 1 November 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

Stagecoach 555
Kendal – Staveley – Windermere – Ambleside – Rydal – Grasmere – Thirlmere (Wythburn & Swirls) – Keswick
Catch it from: Windermere · Ambleside
Year-round, roughly hourly. The backbone bus of the A591 — ideal for Helvellyn (Wythburn/Swirls), Fairfield, the Central fells and anything around Grasmere/Rydal. From Penrith, take the X4/X5 to Keswick and change.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.

Toilets and refreshments

The essentials

  • Arrival The Dob Gill car park at the start is closed. The nearest other car park we list is Steel End, at the south end of the lake, about 1.3 km away on foot: pay and display. (Lee, 25 September 2026 (the closure); Lake District National Park car-parks directory (Steel End), checked 25 September 2026)
  • Toilets No toilets are mapped within 250 m of the start. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
  • Refreshments No café or pub is mapped within 250 m of the start: bring what you need. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
  • Limitation Four tops on the boggy watershed above Thirlmere, rated hard to navigate: 13.5 km and 509 m, about 3½ to 4¾ hours. (our route notes (this route's own summary), checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start

Mapped as nearby on OpenStreetMap, as of 13 September 2026, within 250 m of where this route starts (information boards within 150 m; benches and shelter within 50 m):

Also mapped within reach: 2 information boards.

Distances are straight lines from where this route starts, not walking routes. Opening hours are as mapped and change; none of this is checked daily.

Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors (opens in new tab), ODbL.

Water, shelter & getting away

toilets (opens in new tab) (52 m off the line)

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.

Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat

Planning detail

How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.

Difficulty profile

Hard overall — hardest: Terrain (our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet) and navigation (estimated from the map, not checked on the ground); exposure not assessed on the ground

LengthModerate13.49 km round.
SteepnessModerateSteepest sustained descent about 25% around the 8.9 km mark.
TerrainHardA trackless expanse of peat and reeds, boggy throughout, with a slick, steep grass descent off the plateau. Hard – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet
NavigationHardCare needed in cloud — ~34% featureless high ground. Hard – estimated from the map, not checked on the ground
ExposureNot assessedNot assessed on the ground; the map suggests Moderate. Graded from slope only (~31% max); treat exposure as unverified. Exposure (drops, scrambling, how bad a slip would be) needs the ground, so a map estimate is not given a grade here and does not count towards the overall grade. A rating appears once the ground is assessed.

Five independent axes, not one score. This route has not been walked yet, so none of them was set on the ground: one of the five is our judgement from the map and the route’s record, and the rest are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.

How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.

Pacing

SummitCumulativeAscentTime (fast–steady)
1Brown Rigg2.6 km266 m0:58–1:16
2Shivery Knott6.2 km410 m1:55–2:33
3Middle Crag6.6 km419 m2:02–2:42
4High Tove7.4 km461 m2:15–2:59
Finish13.5 km509 m3:33–4:43

A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.

Access & barriers

Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?

Dog
Mostly gates
Buggy
Not buggy-able
Knees
Steep in places
  • Buggy: Stiles or rough going on the route.
  • Knees: A sustained ~28% descent over 250 m around the 8.7 km mark — a little jarring on tired knees.

With a dog

Hardest for a dog here: stiles and gates. The steepest stretch is a sustained descent of about 25% around the 8.9 km mark.

  • Stiles and gates: A stile of unmapped type at 4.1 km — a dog may need lifting over. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 26 July 2026)
  • Rock and scrambling: Ground underfoot: Hard – our judgement from the map and the route’s record; not walked yet. A trackless expanse of peat and reeds, boggy throughout, with a slick, steep grass descent off the plateau.
  • Drops and exposed ground: Not assessed on the ground; the map suggests Moderate. Graded from slope only (~31% max); treat exposure as unverified.
  • Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
  • Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.

On the line: 6 gates · 1 kissing gate · 1 stile (type unmapped)

Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 26 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).

Places to stay near this start

We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

Walks from places nearby

Straight-line distance from this walk’s start. Those lists hold the routes we have mapped and every Wainwright and Outlying fell within about 5 km of the town, ranked nearest first.

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