Dodd & Whiteside
Start Lanthwaite Green (paid)
Getting here Parking: Lanthwaite Green, 0.1 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 77 stops at Lanthwaite Green Farm (opposite), a 110 m walk from this start. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓
Hardest part Severe steepness: Steepest sustained climb about 41% around the 1.5 km mark. Hands for a few steps: a few spots on Whin Ben (km 0.0–1.9).
Before you choose
- Whiteside (Whiteside West Top): The ridge towers above Gasgale Gill on a wall of crag. Keep back from the southern edge, particularly in cloud or wind where the drop comes with little warning.
Conditions on this route
We score every Lakeland Wainwright each morning on cloud, wind, rain and underfoot, and this route crosses 1 of them. The worst summit governs the verdict — a route is only as kind as its roughest top.
Modelled guidance — not a substitute for the mountain forecast or your own judgement. See how every fell ranks today →
Daylight & turnaround
Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.
See also walking in bad weather and today’s conditions.
Route map
1 Whiteside (Whiteside West Top)2 Dodd (Lorton)
Easy 48%Moderate 15%Hard 30%Severe 8%
Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.
Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).
The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.
The walk, stage by stage
- 1
Start → Whiteside (Whiteside West Top) (1.9 km, 547 m)
Leave the parking area near Lanthwaite Green and immediately tackle the punishingly steep, heather-clad spur of Whin Ben. The path is a relentless, zigzagging staircase of rock and root that pulls no punches, attacking the sheer nose of the fell head-on until it eventually deposits you, lungs burning, onto the rocky, exposed perch of Whiteside's West Top.
WaypointsLanthwaite Green (start), Whin Ben ridge, Whiteside West Top (703m).
Decision pointThe spine of Whin Ben acts as a clear natural handrail pointing directly to the summit. Keep the massive, yawning ravine of Gasgale Gill clearly on your right (east/south-east) as you climb; do not stray too close to its dangerously unstable, craggy edges.
Easy to get wrongA 29% average gradient makes this one of the most concentrated, aggressive ascents in the north-western fells. There is zero warm-up. The path is highly eroded, rocky, and requires hands-on scrambling in a few minor spots on Whin Ben. As you gain the upper ridge, you are fully exposed to the prevailing westerly winds blasting off the Solway Firth, and the final rocky arête drops away sharply to the right.
If you need to get offThe retreat is to carefully downclimb the exact path you came up. Under no circumstances should you attempt to bail eastward down the impossibly steep and dangerous scree slopes into Gasgale Gill.
- 2
Whiteside (Whiteside West Top) → Dodd (Lorton) (1.5 km, 40 m)
Turn your back on the main Whiteside ridge and strike north-west, descending the broad, sweeping, grassy shoulder that connects the high fell to its lower satellite peak. The route drops steadily over short turf before undulating over a slight depression and making a final, minimal pull up to the modest grassy summit of Dodd.
WaypointsWhiteside West Top, north-western shoulder, Dodd summit (Lorton, 454m).
Decision pointOn a clear day, the lush green expanse of the Vale of Lorton serves as a massive visual aiming point directly ahead. In clag, strictly follow a north-westerly compass bearing down the center of the spur, being careful not to drift left (west) towards the steep, bracken-choked gullies overlooking the valley road.
Easy to get wrongCompared to the brutal ascent of Whin Ben, this is a delightfully fast and easy descent over grass. However, the turf is incredibly slick after rain, requiring care not to slip and jolt the knees. In thick hill fog, the broadness of this shoulder can be highly disorienting, lacking the sharp definition of the higher rocky arêtes.
If you need to get offPushing forward to Dodd and continuing the descent to the valley is your most efficient escape route. Do not attempt to re-ascend Whiteside unless you specifically need to return to the Lanthwaite Green start point via Whin Ben.
Dodd (Lorton) → Finish (4.5 km, 94 m)
Plunge off the steep northern flanks of Dodd, picking your way down the zig-zagging trods through the deep vegetation to intersect the lower valley floor. From here, pick up the undulating traverse paths and quiet country lanes that skirt the lower boundary of the massif, winding your way back south along the base of the fells to complete the circuit.
WaypointsDodd northern descent, Lorton valley intake walls, valley traverse paths, Lanthwaite Green.
Decision pointOnce off the steep open fell, the drystone intake walls and the valley roads act as a continuous catching feature. Keep the towering bulk of Whiteside and the steep fells on your left-hand side as you trace the valley floor back to the starting point.
Easy to get wrongThe initial drop off Dodd is relentlessly steep. In summer, chest-high bracken frequently obliterates the path, hiding deep holes, slick rocks, and sheep ticks, turning a simple descent into an exhausting bushwhack. The subsequent 4.5 km valley walk-out features several minor, energy-sapping undulations that feel much heavier on tired legs than the 2% gradient average suggests.
If you need to get offThe moment you hit the valley floor, you are on your escape route. Simply stick to the established roads and farm tracks, avoiding any temptation to cut corners through enclosed fields or dense valley forestry.
GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked
Make it easier or harder
Short version: turn back at about 3.3 km and retrace your outward leg: about 6.6 km in all, against 7.9 km for the whole walk, with about 270 m of climbing on the way back over ground you came down. It is the same ground back, not a separate descent.
Summits bagged (2)
- 1Whiteside (Whiteside West Top)707 m
- 2Dodd (Lorton)454 m
In the order you walk them — the same numbers the elevation profile, the stage notes and the pacing table use.
Conditions and timing
Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.
When the sun reaches the tops
Not sunrise — the moment the sun clears the skyline from that summit, which on a fell with high ground to its east can be a good deal later.
- Whiteside (Whiteside West Top) — in late March the sun reaches it around 06:30, about a quarter of an hour later. In late September, about 07:15. It waits longest in late December — about half an hour after sunrise.
How to read these times
The two equinoxes are shown because they fall in the walking season, and late December too wherever a top keeps you waiting then; the clock gap between the equinoxes is British Summer Time, not the hill. Rounded to the nearest quarter hour and meant as a general idea, not a schedule.
Modelled from a 30 m elevation model against each summit’s own skyline — the same figures the fell pages carry, never observed. Cloud is not in it.
Getting there and back
Parking
2 more places to park near the start
Positions are approximate.
Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.
If the parking is full
There is no real plan B by car here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off. The bus below is the exception: it is not limited by car-park space, though it runs to a timetable and can be full.
- Lanthwaite Green — at the start
- Grasmoor (verge) — a 760 m walk to the start
- By bus: buses stop at Lanthwaite Green Farm (opposite), a 110 m walk from the start. A bus is not affected by a full car park. Its return times are under Buses.
We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.
No signal when you get there? RoutePark keeps this list on your phone: choose this walk’s GPX at home, keep it, and it opens offline.
Buses
The 77 stops at Lanthwaite Green Farm (opposite), a 110 m walk from this start. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. It returns on 22 March 2027. Confirmed with the operator: its last day on 29 August 2026, its return on 16 October 2026. As timetabled from 27 October to 1 November. Towards Keswick (77): Tuesday to Sunday 18:03. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.
The 77 passes this route at 0.0 km (Lanthwaite Green Farm (opposite), 100 m off the line).
Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.
Toilets and refreshments
The essentials
- Arrival Lanthwaite Green car park (National Trust), about 55 m from the start: £7 up to 2 hours, £8 up to 4 hours, £9.50 all day; free for National Trust members. 55 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (National Trust, car parks in the Buttermere valley (listed as Lanthwaite Wood, grid reference NY158207; Lee, 28 Sep 2026: it is this car park), checked 28 September 2026)
- Toilets No toilets are mapped within 250 m of the start. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Refreshments No café or pub is mapped within 250 m of the start: bring what you need. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Limitation Severe for steepness, with a stage averaging 29%. Whiteside’s ridge towers above Gasgale Gill on a wall of crag: keep back from the southern edge in cloud or wind. (our route notes (this route's own warnings), checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start
Mapped as nearby on OpenStreetMap, as of 13 September 2026, within 250 m of where this route starts (information boards within 150 m; benches and shelter within 50 m):
Also mapped within reach: 2 information boards.
Distances are straight lines from where this route starts, not walking routes. Opening hours are as mapped and change; none of this is checked daily.
Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors (opens in new tab), ODbL.
Water, shelter & getting away
On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.
Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat
Planning detail
How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.
Difficulty profile
Severe overall — hardest: Steepness; terrain not assessed; exposure not assessed on the ground
Five independent axes, not one score. None of them was set on the ground: they are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.
How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.
Pacing
| Summit | Cumulative | Ascent | Time (fast–steady) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1Whiteside (Whiteside West Top) | 1.9 km | 547 m | 1:18–1:44 |
| 2Dodd (Lorton) | 3.4 km | 588 m | 1:40–2:13 |
| Finish | 7.9 km | 682 m | 2:43–3:37 |
A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.
Access & barriers
Can a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?
- Buggy: No mapped stiles, but the ground underfoot has not been assessed; not a buggy line on what we know.
- Knees: A long, steep ~42% drop over 250 m around the 2.5 km mark — hard on the knees.
On the line: No barriers mapped on this line.
Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 26 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).
Places to stay near this start
- High Swinside Holiday Cottages (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 3.9 km
- Crummockwater Cottages (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 1.8 km
- Bridge Hotel (opens in new tab) hotelabout 4.2 km
We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).
Walks from places nearby
- Walks from Scale Force — 3.9 km from this start
- Walks from Moss Force — 4.9 km from this start
Straight-line distance from this walk’s start. Those lists hold the routes we have mapped and every Wainwright and Outlying fell within about 5 km of the town, ranked nearest first.

