Carron Crag from Grizedale
Start Grizedale Forest Visitor Centre
Getting here Parking: Grizedale Forest Visitor Centre (paid), 0.1 km from the start (straight line). Bus: the 505 stops at Hawkshead, at Tourist Information Centre; from there it is 4.8 km and 222 m of ascent to this start. And the same back: about 20.6 km in all, with the walk. Getting there ↓ · Route map ↓
Hardest part Hard navigation: Care needed in cloud — ~27% featureless high ground. Hard – estimated from the map, not checked on the ground
Before you choose
Daylight & turnaround
Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.
See also walking in bad weather and today’s conditions.
Access & barriers
Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route?
- Buggy: No mapped stiles, but the ground underfoot has not been assessed; not a buggy line on what we know.
- Knees: No sustained steep descent in the track’s height model (steepest 250 m about 15%). Steps, wet rock and the surface underfoot are not assessed; your own knees still matter.
With a dog
Not every line below has been assessed. The steepest stretch is a sustained climb of about 18% around the 0.8 km mark.
- Stiles and gates: Only gates and kissing gates are mapped: no stile a dog can’t get through. That is the barriers alone; check the route’s steep or rocky ground before you bring a dog. (OpenStreetMap, mapped as of 26 July 2026)
- Rock and scrambling: Ground underfoot: Not assessed.
- Drops and exposed ground: Not assessed on the ground; the map suggests Easy. Graded from slope only (~21% max); treat exposure as unverified.
- Ways off early: None recorded for this route.
- Livestock, shade and water: Not recorded for this route yet. We never call a stream safe for a dog to drink, so carry enough for both of you. The lead rules, and what to do around cattle, are on dogs on the fells.
On the line: 4 gates · 1 kissing gate
Barriers as mapped on OpenStreetMap, which can miss some. Spotted one? Tell us (opens in new tab). Barrier data as of 26 July 2026. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).
Route map
1 Carron Crag
Easy 97%Moderate 3%HardSevere
Heights on this chart and its high point are read from the track itself (a terrain model sampled along the line, or a GPS recording), so a top can differ from its listed height, usually reading lower.
Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).
The elevation profile is under the map; the stage notes follow.
The walk, stage by stage
- 1
Start → Carron Crag (2.3 km, 216 m)
Depart from the Grizedale valley floor and head directly up into the sprawling commercial forestry plantation. The initial ascent utilizes wide, hard-packed gravel timber roads before transitioning onto steeper, narrower woodland trails that weave between the dense conifers. The final push demands a short, sharp pull up a root-laced bank, finally breaking clear of the dark tree canopy to emerge onto the open, rocky viewpoint of Carron Crag, the highest point in the forest.
WaypointsGrizedale valley floor (visitor centre environs), main forestry fire roads, Carron Crag rocky summit.
Decision pointForestry England waymarkers often dot the lower routes, but the sheer volume of crisscrossing fire roads and dedicated mountain bike trails can be highly confusing. Keep aiming for the highest ground, following the upward trajectory of the paths until the rocky knoll of the crag reveals itself through the thinning tree line.
Easy to get wrongWhile the lower gravel tracks are straightforward, the narrower forest paths can become notoriously slick with mud, wet pine needles, and exposed tree roots after typical Lake District rain, acting like ice under wet boots. Additionally, Grizedale is a working forest; you may encounter active timber operations where heavy machinery has churned the trails into deep, impassable clay trenches.
If you need to get offThe most efficient retreat is to turn around and retrace your route back to the valley floor.
Carron Crag → Finish (8.7 km, 176 m)
Drop off the rocky summit back into the dense tree cover, embarking on a long, meandering loop through the vast Grizedale Forest network. The route follows a seemingly endless sequence of wide gravel fire roads, undulating gently through deep, dark plantations and sudden, expansive clear-felled areas, eventually spiraling steadily back down to the valley floor and your starting point.
WaypointsCarron Crag descent, Grizedale fire road network, clear-felled timber zones, Grizedale visitor hub finish.
Decision pointRely heavily on the major, graded gravel forestry roads as your primary handrails, paying meticulous attention to track junctions. Do not rely on visual landmarks like specific forest edges or tree lines, as timber harvesting changes the landscape overnight; trust your GPS or physical map to track your location on the road network.
Easy to get wrongThe 8.7 km distance is deceptive; the undulating nature of the forestry tracks results in a sneaky 176m of accumulated climbing that will test tired legs. The primary challenge here is navigational disorientation, as the commercial forest looks identical in almost every direction. Furthermore, clear-felling operations frequently obliterate recognized paths or render older maps entirely obsolete. You must also maintain strict situational awareness, as many tracks are shared with high-speed mountain bikers.
If you need to get offThe forest is heavily laced with fire roads, and not every downhill track leads out; no way out other than the route has been checked for this guide, so if you become disoriented, fix your position on the map or GPS before choosing a track.
GPX track for your GPS or phone. Planned route · not yet walked
Summits bagged (1)
- 1Carron Crag314 m
Conditions and timing
Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.
Getting there and back
Parking
2 more places to park near the start
Positions are approximate.
Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.
If the parking is full
There is no real plan B here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so expect them to fill on the same mornings. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off.
- Grizedale Forest Visitor Centre (paid) — at the start
- Carron Crag car park (paid) — joins the loop at about km 10.3 of 11: a 150 m walk to the line, and you walk the round from there
- Carron Crag, east car park 2 — at the start
We never say whether anywhere has spaces today. Walks to the line are measured along mapped paths (OpenStreetMap), not in a straight line. How we choose these places.
No signal when you get there? RoutePark keeps this list on your phone: choose this walk’s GPX at home, keep it, and it opens offline.
Buses
The 505 stops at Hawkshead, at Tourist Information Centre. From there it is 4.8 km and 222 m of ascent to this start — a walk in before the walk. And the same back: about 20.6 km in all, with the walk. As timetabled from 27 October to 1 November. Towards Coniston (505): Tuesday to Sunday 19:55. Towards Kendal (505): Tuesday to Sunday 20:43. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.
The 505 passes this route at 5.5 km (Waterhead, opposite Coniston Inn, 970 m off the line).
Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.
Toilets and refreshments
The essentials
- Arrival Grizedale Forest visitor centre car park (Forestry England), about 65 m from the start: the first 20 minutes free, £2.90 for the first hour, then 70p per 15 minutes, £14 all day; free for members. Pay on exit, by card at the machine or cash at the visitor centre. 63 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (Forestry England, Grizedale, checked 11 August 2026)
- Toilets Toilets are mapped about 220 m from the start. 220 m in a straight line, not a walking distance. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Refreshments No café or pub is mapped within 250 m of the start: bring what you need. (OpenStreetMap, as mapped on 13 September 2026, checked 13 September 2026)
- Limitation Rated hard to navigate, because the forest tracks all look alike: 11 km and 392 m, with a 21% pull over 250 m at the start. (our route notes (this route's own summary), checked 2 October 2026)
Everything mapped near the start
Mapped as nearby on OpenStreetMap, as of 13 September 2026, within 250 m of where this route starts (information boards within 150 m; benches and shelter within 50 m):
Distances are straight lines from where this route starts, not walking routes. Opening hours are as mapped and change; none of this is checked daily.
Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors (opens in new tab), ODbL.
Water, shelter & getting away
Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is not proof the water is drinkable, so carry your own or use a supply you know is safe. Never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock upstream and leave you seriously ill. Use a treatment method suited to what might be in the water, and follow the device’s own instructions. Boiling and ordinary filters do not make water with dissolved metals or chemicals safe: where that is possible, choose another source.
On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.
Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat
Planning detail
How each grade on this page is set, and the timings stage by stage.
Difficulty profile
Hard overall — hardest: Navigation (estimated from the map, not checked on the ground); terrain not assessed; exposure not assessed on the ground
Five independent axes, not one score. None of them was set on the ground: they are computed from the recorded track and the map, which measures the line rather than surveying the ground.
How we grade: each axis is Easy, Moderate, Hard or Severe, and a route between two bands takes the higher one. Length: under 8 km, 8–14 km, 14–20 km, over 20 km. Steepness, the steepest 500 m of the track: under 15%, 15–25%, 25–35%, over 35%. Terrain, navigation and exposure are judged rather than measured, and each note says why. How we grade.
Pacing
| Summit | Cumulative | Ascent | Time (fast–steady) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1Carron Crag | 2.3 km | 216 m | 0:49–1:05 |
| Finish | 11.0 km | 392 m | 2:51–3:48 |
A fast–steady range from Naismith’s rule, deliberately on the slow side. Breaks, weather, rough ground and the slowest person in your party all add to it. How we time walks.
Places to stay near this start
- Bank Ground Farm (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 3.6 km
- Low Parkamoor Cottage (opens in new tab) guest houseabout 3.3 km
We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).
Walks from places nearby
- Walks from Hawkshead — 4.5 km from this start
- Walks from Coniston — 4.9 km from this start
Straight-line distance from this walk’s start. Those lists hold the routes we have mapped and every Wainwright and Outlying fell within about 5 km of the town, ranked nearest first.