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10.99 km · ~388 m ascent · ~2.5–3.5 h · loop · 1 summit

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Carron Crag from Grizedale

10.99 km
Distance
~2.5–3.5 h
Typical time
~388 m
Ascent
1
Summit
Download GPX →Planned route · not yet walked

Key facts

Distance 10.99 km
Ascent ~388 m
Descent ~392 m
Time ~2.5–3.5 h
Type Loop
Start Grizedale Forest Visitor Centre
The high point of Grizedale Forest, out and back in 11 km with 388 m of climbing and nothing steeper than about 9%. Easy for exposure but rated hard to navigate — forest tracks all look alike. Under three hours.
✎️ Planned route — drawn but not personally walked or checked yet. A planned line is a suggestion, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate independently and carry a map & compass. How to use this guide.

Difficulty profile

LengthModerate10.99 km round.
SteepnessModerateSteepest sustained pull about 21% around the 0.7 km mark.
TerrainModerateMostly good mountain path. desk assessment — not field-verified
NavigationHardCare needed in cloud — ~27% featureless high ground. desk assessment — not field-verified
ExposureNot assessedExposure (drops, scrambling, how bad a slip would be) can’t be judged from gradient data alone, so we don’t guess. A rating appears once the route is editorially assessed or walked.

Five independent axes, not one score. “Desk” ratings come from maps and guidebooks, not yet walked — treat them as a guide, not a survey.

Access & barriers

Can a dog, a buggy or dodgy knees manage this route? A quick read from the gates and stiles mapped along the way.

Dog
Gates only
Buggy
Not buggy-able
Knees
Gentle descent
  • Dog: Gates and kissing gates only — a dog can do the whole route.
  • Buggy: Stiles or rough going on the route.
  • Knees: No sustained steep descent — kind on the knees.

On the line: 4 gates · 1 kissing gate

These are mapped barriers, from OpenStreetMap — coverage in the Lakes is good but not guaranteed complete. Spotted a stile or gate we’ve missed? Tell us (opens in new tab) and we’ll fix it. Barrier data as of 2026-07-26. Access data © OpenStreetMap contributors (via Overpass).

Daylight & turnaround

Daylight is short from October to February — check today’s sunrise and sunset before you set off, and carry a head-torch and spare batteries. On short days, decide your turn-back time before you start.

OpenTopoMap
Elevation profile, shaded by steepness
Elevation profile Rises from about 94 m to 303 m over 11.0 km, with the summits marked in order. The area beneath is shaded by sustained steepness over a 250 m window, in the same four bands as the route’s steepness rating: Easy under 15%, Moderate 15 to 25%, Hard 25 to 35%, Severe above 35%. 303 m 94 m 0 km 11.0 km 1

1 Carron Crag

Easy 93%Moderate 7%HardSevere

~388 m
Total ascent
303 m
High point
98 m
Start height

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap (switch layers top-right).

This walk covers about 10.99 km with around 388 m of ascent, taking in 1 summit. The map above shows the line; the elevation profile and stage notes are below.

Pacing

SummitCumulativeAscentTime (fast–steady)
1Carron Crag2.3 km212 m0:48–1:04
Finish11.0 km388 m2:51–3:47

Naismith-based estimate — a fast/steady range. Your pace will vary. These use Naismith’s textbook constants (5 km/h, 600 m of ascent an hour). Measured against a pace fitted to 41 recorded Lakeland walks they run about 8% slow, and we have left them that way deliberately: a slow estimate strands nobody.

The walk, stage by stage

  1. 1

    Start → Carron Crag (2.3 km, 212 m)

    Climb of about 212 m over 2.3 km (around 9% average).

    Depart from the Grizedale valley floor and head directly up into the sprawling commercial forestry plantation. The initial ascent utilizes wide, hard-packed gravel timber roads before transitioning onto steeper, narrower woodland trails that weave between the dense conifers. The final push demands a short, sharp pull up a root-laced bank, finally breaking clear of the dark tree canopy to emerge onto the open, rocky viewpoint of Carron Crag, the highest point in the forest

    Waypoints

    Grizedale valley floor (visitor centre environs), main forestry fire roads, Carron Crag rocky summit

    Decision point

    Forestry England waymarkers often dot the lower routes, but the sheer volume of crisscrossing fire roads and dedicated mountain bike trails can be highly confusing. Keep aiming for the highest ground, following the upward trajectory of the paths until the rocky knoll of the crag reveals itself through the thinning tree line

    Easy to get wrong

    While the lower gravel tracks are straightforward, the narrower forest paths can become notoriously slick with mud, wet pine needles, and exposed tree roots after typical Lake District rain, acting like ice under wet boots. Additionally, Grizedale is a working forest; you may encounter active timber operations where heavy machinery has churned the trails into deep, impassable clay trenches

    If you need to get off

    The safest and most efficient retreat is to simply turn around and descend the gravel forestry tracks straight back to the valley floor; the extensive fire road network provides a highly visible, sheltered, and non-committing escape route at all times

  2. Carron Crag → Finish (8.7 km, 176 m)

    Climb of about 176 m over 8.7 km (around 2% average).

    Drop off the rocky summit back into the dense tree cover, embarking on a long, meandering loop through the vast Grizedale Forest network. The route follows a seemingly endless sequence of wide gravel fire roads, undulating gently through deep, dark plantations and sudden, expansive clear-felled areas, eventually spiraling steadily back down to the valley floor and your starting point

    Waypoints

    Carron Crag descent, Grizedale fire road network, clear-felled timber zones, Grizedale visitor hub finish

    Decision point

    Rely heavily on the major, graded gravel forestry roads as your primary handrails, paying meticulous attention to track junctions. Do not rely on visual landmarks like specific forest edges or tree lines, as timber harvesting changes the landscape overnight; trust your GPS or physical map to track your location on the road network

    Easy to get wrong

    The 8.7 km distance is deceptive; the undulating nature of the forestry tracks results in a sneaky 176m of accumulated climbing that will test tired legs. The primary challenge here is navigational disorientation, as the commercial forest looks identical in almost every direction. Furthermore, clear-felling operations frequently obliterate recognized paths or render older maps entirely obsolete. You must also maintain strict situational awareness, as many tracks are shared with high-speed mountain bikers

    If you need to get off

    The forest is heavily laced with solid, all-weather fire roads; if you become disoriented or fatigued, locating any main gravel track that heads continuously downhill will invariably lead you safely out of the plantation and down to the main Grizedale valley road

Summits bagged (1)

  1. 1Carron Crag314 mSouth Lakeland · Outlying Fell, Birkett, Synge

Getting there & parking

Grizedale Forest Visitor Centre (paid) — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Forest centre car park in Grizedale, for Carron Crag and the forest trails. Fees: First 20 min free; first hour £2.90; then £0.70 per 15 min; all-day max £14. ANPR pay-on-exit; card at machine, cash at visitor centre, or Park with Ease online within 48h (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026). Open daily (closed only in severe weather) (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026). Free for Forestry England members (checked Aug 2026).
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Carron Crag, east car park 2 — 0.1 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Carron Crag — the 'Carron Crag from Grizedale' route starts 82 m away. Grass surface (OSM-tagged). Fee not verified — check signage on arrival.
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Grizedale Forest (disabled) — 0.2 km from the start (straight line)
Walking base for Carron Crag — the 'Carron Crag from Grizedale' route starts 201 m away. Fee not verified — check signage on arrival. No camping or overnight stays in any Grizedale Forest car park (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026).
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Carron Crag car park (paid) — 0.7 km from the start (straight line)
Nearest fells: Carron Crag (1.1 km). Paid parking (OSM-tagged).
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Bogle Crag car park, Grizedale (FE, paid) — 0.8 km from the start (straight line)
Nearest fells: Carron Crag (1.6 km). Fees: First 20 min free; first hour £2.20; then £0.55 per 15 min; all-day max £14. ANPR pay-on-exit (Forestry England, checked Aug 2026). Free for Forestry England members (checked Aug 2026).
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Positions are approximate. Lakeland car parks fill before 9am on fine weekends.

Vehicles are left entirely at their owner’s risk. We list places people park; we cannot vouch for any of them. Judge it on the day: take valuables with you, leave nothing on show, and if a spot feels wrong when you get there, park somewhere else.

Every option near this start, on the parking map →

Water, shelter & getting away

💧 Treat water from the fell before you drink it. A mapped point is usually a tap or public supply, but never drink untreated from a beck, stream or tarn — even clear-looking hill water can carry giardia or cryptosporidium from livestock or a carcass upstream and leave you seriously ill. Run it through a filter or purifier (a LifeStraw, Sawyer Squeeze or HydraPak) or bring it to a rolling boil first.

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors — an absent marker does not mean the facility isn’t there.

Buses

The 505 stops at Hawkshead, at Tourist Information Centre. From there it is 4.8 km and 222 m of ascent to this start — a walk in before the walk. The last bus is 20:43 towards Kendal (505) and 19:55 towards Coniston (505) and 19:03 towards Ambleside (505), every day. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 7 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

The 505 passes this route at 5.5 km (Waterhead, opposite Coniston Inn, 970 m off the line).

Stagecoach 505 “Coniston Rambler”
Windermere – Ambleside – Skelwith Bridge – Hawkshead – Coniston
Catch it from: Windermere · Ambleside
Daily in season (reduced winter service). Best access for the Coniston fells (Old Man, Wetherlam group).

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before travelling.

If the parking is full

There is no real plan B here. Every place we know beside this route serves the same walks and sits close together, so if one is full the others usually are too. Worth starting early, or having a different walk in mind before you set off.

  • Grizedale Forest Visitor Centre (paid)
  • Grizedale Forest (disabled)
  • Carron Crag car park (paid)

Worked out from the parking we hold within walking reach of this route and the other walks each place serves — two places that serve the same walks fill for the same reasons. We are not saying whether anywhere has spaces today, and we never will: this is what exists, not what is free.

Safety & conditions

Check live conditions in the “From the fells” panel, on MWIS (opens in new tab) and the Met Office mountain forecast (opens in new tab) before you set off.

Make it easier or harder

Easier and harder options coming soon.

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Download GPX

GPX track for your GPS or phone.

Places to stay near this start

Bank Ground Farm (opens in new tab) guest house

about 3.6 km from the start, in a straight line

The only address in the radius that answers a walking family's whole evening in its own words: 'High chairs, cots and stair gates are available on request' means nobody has to pack a cot for Carron Crag, and food is on site rather than a drive away. It is also the only EV answer here - 'We have 2 x 7KW type 2 EV chargers onsite for guests and patrons to use. Please bring your own charge cable.' Two honest catches for a walker: breakfast is 'served at 9am', which is late if you want to be in Grizedale early, and the dog rule is split - dogs are welcome on the farm and there are kennels, but 'no pets are allowed inside the cottages and farmhouses'. Six en-suite B&B rooms in the farmhouse plus cottages sleeping two to sixteen, so a big group books one address.

Worth knowing: “Pets are more than welcome on the farm, we have purpose built five star accommodation so that you can bring the whole family along, however with the exception of assistant dogs, no pets are allowed inside the cottages and farmhouses.”

Arthur Ransome set Swallows and Amazons at this farm, and the 1970s film was shot here; the family now runs it as a working farm with its own cafe, restaurant and farm shop.

  • Dogs “Pets are more than welcome on the farm, we have purpose built five star accommodation so that you can bring the whole family along, however with the exception of assistant dogs, no pets are allowed inside the cottages and farmhouses.”
  • Family rooms “The traditional farm buildings have been converted into cottages of different sizes, sleeping two to sixteen.”
  • Evening meal “Let our fab chefs prepare you lovely meals, be it breakfast, lunch or dinner.”
  • Children “High chairs, cots and stair gates are available on request.”

Low Parkamoor Cottage (opens in new tab) guest house

about 3.3 km from the start, in a straight line

Nothing else in this radius is remotely like it, and for the right party it is the reason to walk Carron Crag from this side at all: an off-grid grade II listed farmhouse above Coniston Water, sleeping six, dogs allowed by agreement, keys handed over at the farm rather than a lockbox. It is also the row that most needs its warnings attached - no running water, no lights upstairs, limited mobile signal, and their own line 'you must bring food, at least for the start of your stay as the nearest shop is roughly 5 miles away.' Arrivals are from 3pm and departures before 11am, and access is on foot unless you book the 4x4 lift.

An off-grid grade II listed farmhouse 200 metres above the east shore of Coniston Water with no mains services, no running water and no lights upstairs - solar-fed LEDs downstairs, an indoor hand pump, two wood burners, and a compost toilet outside. You cannot drive to it: the farm runs a 4x4 drop-off for up to four people, otherwise you walk in.

  • Dogs “Dogs are allowed by agreement, but owners are asked to keep them under close control.”
  • Family rooms “It sleeps a maximum of 6 people. There are two double room and a twin room.”

What each place says about itself, quoted from their own site. We have not stayed at any of them, and there are no prices, no booking and no affiliate links. Distances are straight lines from the route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

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