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Thirdgill Head Man - a small cairn beside the ridge path, looking along the ridge to Whiteless Pike and down to Crummock Water, with Mellbreak across the lake under broken cloud

Thirdgill Head Man

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734 mBirkett — North Western (not a Wainwright summit)+8 bonus Birketts within 3 km

Thirdgill Head Man is a Birkett (one of the 541 tops in Bill Birkett's Complete Lakeland Fells) in the North Western Fells. Its nearest tops are Wandope (0.5 km ENE); Whiteless Pike (0.7 km SSW); Grasmoor (1.1 km NW).

Summit conditions on Thirdgill Head Man

On the summit on Tuesday 27 October: 10° to 5°C, gusts to 67 mph, 7.9 mm of rain forecast over the whole day, midnight to midnight.

Full 7-day summit forecast ↓

The forecast figures are Open-Meteo’s, worked out for the summit’s height. How we check →

Weather data by Open-Meteo.com (opens in new tab)

Routes up Thirdgill Head Man

Choose the way up before the car park: these four routes start from three places, and the last two rows give the parking and bus at each route’s own start. Full maps further down.

ComparedThe Grasmoor RoundThe Grasmoor round: Whiteside, Hopegill Head and Whiteless PikeNewlands Hause to the Coledale TopsHigh Snockrigg, Eel Crag & Lad Hows
Starts fromLanthwaite Green (paid)Lanthwaite Green (paid)Newlands HauseHigh Snockrigg (verge)
Distance and climb16.17 km, 1,304 m of climb16.17 km, 1,161 m of climb11.4 km, 1,107 m of climb15.69 km, 1,446 m of climb
Time, fast to steady~5¼–7¼ h~5–7 h~4–5½ h~5½–7½ h
ScramblingEasy scramble: the last 100 m up Hopegill Head from Whiteside (km 3.6–3.7). In the final 100 metres before the peak, where the hands-on scramble begins, take the left-hand line straight up onto the rocky peak.Easy scramble: the last 100 m up Hopegill Head from Whiteside (km 3.5–3.6). Gasgale Crags is a narrow, airy ridge, and the last 100 m up Hopegill Head is an easy scramble — no place to slip.Not mentioned in the route’s notesNot mentioned in the route’s notes
ExposureHardHardNot assessedNot assessed
NavigationModerateHardHardModerate
Steepest stretchClimb of about 39% at 1.6 km (Severe)Climb of about 41% at 1.5 km (Severe)Descent of about 43% at 9.4 km (Severe)Descent of about 43% at 10.6 km (Severe)
After the summitOver Whiteless Pike and Rannerdale KnottsOver Whiteless Pike and Rannerdale KnottsOver Whiteless PikeOver Crag Hill (Eel Crag), Eel Crag (Birkett), Grasmoor and Lad Hows
Walked or plannedWalked by Lee, August 2026Walked by Lee, August 2026Planned: drawn, not yet walkedPlanned: drawn, not yet walked
Car park at the startLanthwaite Green (paid)Lanthwaite Green (paid)Newlands Hause car park (free)High Snockrigg (verge)
Bus to the start77 at the start. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day.77 at the start. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day.77, 2.2 km walk from Buttermere Youth Hostel (near). Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day.77 at the start. Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day.

Times run from fast to steady pace (Naismith’s rule). Scrambling quotes each route’s own notes; “not mentioned” means they do not say, not that the ground has none. Each route’s page has its map, stages and GPX.

Distance, climb and the steepest stretch are measured from each route’s GPX track; the other grades are set on the ground, judged from the map or estimated from OpenStreetMap, and each route page says which. How we check →

How hard is Thirdgill Head Man?

The shortest way up we hold is Newlands Hause to the Coledale Tops — 11.4 km, 1107 m of ascent, ~4–5½ h. On our scale its hardest axis is steepness — Severe.

All axes: steepness: Severe · navigation: Hard · length: Moderate · terrain: Not assessed · exposure: Not assessed.

These are the route page’s grades, set by the rules on how we grade: length and steepness measured from its GPX track, the others set on the ground, judged from the map or estimated from OpenStreetMap. The route page says which. How we check →

Conditions and 7-day summit forecast

Modelled for the 734 m summit (Open-Meteo). Check the Met Office mountain forecast and MWIS before you set off.

Full 7-day forecast
Tue 27 Oct
10° / 5°
67 mph
7.9 mm (100%)
Wed 28 Oct
8° / 5°
49 mph
8.7 mm (100%)
Thu 29 Oct
8° / 6°
25 mph
1.9 mm (67%)
Fri 30 Oct
8° / 6°
19 mph
0.0 mm (12%)
Sat 31 Oct
7° / 3°
5 mph
0.0 mm (8%)
Sun 1 Nov
7° / 0°
13 mph
1.5 mm (2%)
Mon 2 Nov
5° / -2°
8 mph
0.0 mm (0%)

Taken 27 October 2026, 20:59 UTC; the live forecast replaces it when it loads. Weather data by Open-Meteo.com (opens in new tab)

Parking & buses for Thirdgill Head Man

Parking

Route starts first, then the car parks nearest the summit, which are not always a way up.

Lanthwaite Green — 0.1 km from the start of The Grasmoor Round and The Grasmoor round: Whiteside, Hopegill Head and Whiteless Pike (straight line)
At the foot of Grasmoor and Whiteside, Crummock Water. Fees: £7 up to 2 hours; £8 up to 4 hours; £9.50 all day. Free for National Trust members (National Trust, read 28 September 2026).
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Newlands Hause car park — at the start of Newlands Hause to the Coledale Tops
At Newlands Hause, the top of the Newlands Pass road above Buttermere. The 'Knott Rigg & Ard Crags Out-and-Back from Newlands Pass' route starts here. Added from the 5 August 2026 OSM candidate review.
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High Snockrigg (verge) — 0.1 km from the start of High Snockrigg, Eel Crag & Lad Hows (straight line)
On the Newlands Pass road above Buttermere village, about 70 m from the Mountain Road junction bus stop. The 'High Snockrigg, Eel Crag & Lad Hows' route starts 60 m away, and 'Great Borne & Starling Dodd' and 'High Stile, Seat via Buttermere' about 210 m away in the village.
The Newlands Pass road above Buttermere with a rough verge beside it, a grassy fell rising ahead
The Newlands Pass road above Buttermere with a rough verge beside it, a grassy fell rising ahead Taken October 2026
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4 more places to park near Thirdgill Head Man
Crummock Water, Cinderdale Common (free) — 2.1 km from summit (straight line)
Roadside common by Crummock Water - Rannerdale Knotts and Whiteless Pike.
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Crummock Water, Cinderdale Common, south (free) — 2.2 km from summit (straight line)
Beside the B5289 at Cinderdale Common, by Crummock Water. The nearest route start is 'Rannerdale bluebell valley and Rannerdale Knotts', which starts here; 'The Grasmoor Round' starts at Lanthwaite Green, 1.6 km on foot. Gravel verge.
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Robinson (layby) — 2.2 km from summit (straight line)
A lay-by on the Newlands Pass road (way/585193027), 0.3 km east of the top of Newlands Hause, on the Newlands side. The 'Knott Rigg & Ard Crags Out-and-Back from Newlands Pass' and 'Newlands Hause to the Coledale Tops' routes start at Newlands Hause, 0.3 km away in a straight line (this pin sits too far from the mapped paths to measure a walk). Free (OSM-tagged).
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Lad Hows (layby) — 2.3 km from summit (straight line)
A lay-by on the B5289 by Crummock Water. The nearest route starts are at Lanthwaite Green, among them 'The Grasmoor Round', 1.1 km on foot.
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Positions are approximate.

Vehicles are left at their owner’s risk: we list places people park and cannot vouch for any of them. Take valuables with you and leave nothing on show.

Buses

The 77 stops at Lanthwaite Green Farm (opposite), a 20 m walk from the start of The Grasmoor Round — a route we rate Severe overall (hardest: steepness). Seasonal: the 77 does not run all year. 1 November 2026 is its last day. It returns on 22 March 2027. Confirmed with the operator: its last day on 29 August 2026, its return on 16 October 2026. As timetabled from 27 October to 1 November. Towards Keswick (77): Tuesday to Sunday 18:03. Checked against the operator’s timetable, 12 September 2026. Times here are a guide, not a promise — leave yourself more than the minute.

Stagecoach 77 / 77A “Honister Rambler”
Keswick – Portinscale – Hawes End (Catbells) – Grange – Seatoller – Honister Pass – Buttermere – Lorton – Whinlatter – Keswick (circular)
Catch it from: Keswick (connect via 555 from Windermere/Ambleside or X4/X5 from Penrith)
Seasonal (Summer 2026 timetable: 23 March to 1 November 2026). Brilliant for the North Western fells: Catbells, Dale Head from Honister, the Buttermere fells and Whinlatter.

Rural routes change seasonally — confirm on stagecoachbus.com (opens in new tab) or Traveline before relying on a last bus.

Getting there across the Lake District: Buses · Parking map · By train · By boat

Hazards on Thirdgill Head Man

Notes from the The Grasmoor round: Whiteside, Hopegill Head and Whiteless Pike route

  • The climb straight up Whiteside from Lanthwaite is brutally steep — a relentless, loose, eroded pull with little respite. It is the hardest 500 m on this route and it comes first.
  • The descent off Whiteless Pike is a knee-breaker — steep, sustained and relentless, right at the end of a long day. It is one of the steepest sustained descents in the Lakes.
  • A long day with 1,161 m of ascent and ten tops. Navigation is graded hard: the high ground is broad and the drops are real.
  • The path runs right around the edge of Addacomb Hole, a steep half-crater with a high headwall. Keep back from the rim, especially in wind or cloud — a slip here drops into serious ground. Don't approach the lip for the view in poor visibility.

Quoted from the route page: its warnings.

We have not written a hazard card for this fell yet, and that is not a sign that it is low-hazard. Read the warnings on the route pages that climb it, check the forecast, carry a map and compass, and turn back in cloud if the ground is not what you expected. The National Park Authority’s What to pack page, AdventureSmart’s hill walking kit list and Mountain Rescue England and Wales’s safety page are linked from our what to carry guide.

If you need Mountain Rescue

Dial 999 or 112 and ask for the Police, then Mountain Rescue.

Before you call, have ready: where you are (a grid reference if you can – the OS Locate app shows yours on your phone), what has happened, how many of you there are, and your mobile number.

Then stay where you are until the rescue team contacts you.

If you cannot make a voice call because of a hearing or speech impairment, emergency SMS works only if you have registered first: text “register” to 999.

From Mountain Rescue England and Wales’s guidance on calling them out (opens in new tab) (read 26 October 2026).

Map, GPX and nearby Birketts

Free mapping: OpenTopoMap / OpenStreetMap, with SRTM elevation data (switch layers top-right).

Parking, toilets and buses: Parking & buses ↑.

Birketts within 3 km of Thirdgill Head Man

These Birkett tops are not Wainwright summits. Distances are straight lines: check the ground and access on a map before adding one.

1.2 km WSWLad Hows426 m · North Western
1.3 km NNEEel Crag (Birkett)807 m · North Western
1.7 km ESEIll Crag (Newlands) (Knott Rigg North Top)546 m · North Western
2.3 km NSand Hill756 m · North Western
2.6 km NNWWhiteside East Top (Whiteside) (Gasgale Crags)719 m · North Western
2.6 km NNWGasgale Crags703 m · North Western
2.7 km NNEHobcarton Crag (Hobcarton Head)738 m · North Western
2.7 km SHigh Snockrigg526 m · North Western

Routes over Thirdgill Head Man

If you only do one round in the North Western Fells, this is it. Grasmoor is a bigger, wilder mountain than its modest reputation suggests, and the ridge from Whiteside over Gasgale Crags to Hopegill Head is as good as ridge walking gets outside the Langdales. Whiteless Pike at the end is a perfect little peak — and a punishing descent.

Download GPX Walked by Lee, August 2026

Best season: Late spring to autumn, in clear conditions. Gasgale Crags is narrow and rocky, and Grasmoor’s summit plateau is a blank, stony expanse that is thoroughly disorientating in cloud.

Warnings: The climb straight up Whiteside from Lanthwaite is brutally steep — a relentless, loose, eroded pull with little respite. It is the hardest 500 m on this route and it comes first. Gasgale Crags is a narrow, rocky ridge. It is not a graded scramble like Sharp Edge, but the last 100 m up Hopegill Head is an easy scramble, the ridge is airy, the rock is loose in places, and it wants care in wind or wet. Grasmoor’s summit is a featureless stony plateau with crags on three sides. In cloud it is a genuine navigation trap — take a bearing before you leave the cairn. The descent off Whiteless Pike is a knee-breaker — steep, sustained and relentless, right at the end of a long day. It is one of the steepest sustained descents in the Lakes. A long day with 1,161 m of ascent and ten tops. Navigation is graded hard: the high ground is broad and the drops are real. The path runs right around the edge of Addacomb Hole, a steep half-crater with a high headwall. Keep back from the rim, especially in wind or cloud — a slip here drops into serious ground. Don't approach the lip for the view in poor visibility. Rannerdale Knotts: The ridge ends suddenly in a wall of crag and scree falling steeply to the valley by Crummock Water. Keep back from the abrupt end and the edges among the summit knolls, especially in wind or cloud — it's a small fell with a real drop. Whiteside (Whiteside West Top): The ridge towers above Gasgale Gill on a wall of crag. Keep back from the southern edge, particularly in cloud or wind where the drop comes with little warning.

From the hazard notes for Whiteside (Whiteside West Top) · Rannerdale Knotts, each with its sources.

Route guide: The Grasmoor round: Whiteside, Hopegill Head and Whiteless Pike →

Download GPX Planned route · not yet walked

Warnings: Grasmoor: The top is broad, grassy and almost featureless, ringed by steep crags and gullies. In mist it is very easy to set off on the wrong bearing and end up above the cliffs or descending a dangerous flank. Take and trust a compass bearing before leaving the summit. Crag Hill (Eel Crag): The northern crags fall away steeply to the head of Coledale. In cloud the flat summit gives little warning of the edge — keep back from the northern rim and don't drift toward it on a vague bearing.

From the hazard notes for Crag Hill (Eel Crag) · Grasmoor, each with its sources.

Route guide: High Snockrigg, Eel Crag & Lad Hows →

The start is the free car park at Newlands Hause, the top of the Newlands Pass road between Buttermere and Newlands. No bus stop is mapped within about 1.5 km.

Download GPX Planned route · not yet walked

Warnings: OpenStreetMap maps crag edges within about 5 m of the path in four places: on the ridge between Sail and Crag Hill (Scott Crag, near 5.95 km), just past the top of Crag Hill (near 6.3 km), near 7.55 km before Wandope, and on Whiteless Edge (near 8.5 km). Between about 6.7 and 7.0 km, past the Eel Crag top, the line is up to about 130 m from any mapped path. From Whiteless Pike the line goes very steeply down to Sail Beck, about 43% sustained near 9.4 km, the steepest ground of the walk, then climbs about 250 m almost as steeply to the Knott Rigg path: about 50% over 250 m near 10.7 km. The line crosses streams at two points OpenStreetMap maps as fords: below Ard Crags near 3.15 km, and Sail Beck near 10.15 km. About 4.3 km of the line, in pieces, follows paths that OpenStreetMap does not record as public rights of way; the longest are about 1.1 km from the top of Ard Crags towards Scar Crags (about 2.75 to 3.9 km), about 0.9 km from Crag Hill past the Eel Crag top (about 6.15 to 7.0 km) and about 2 km from Whiteless Pike to the Knott Rigg path (about 8.9 to 10.9 km). The rest is public footpaths. That is a map-data note, not a ruling on access: check the access land and rights of way maps before relying on this stretch.

Route guide: Newlands Hause to the Coledale Tops →

Download GPX Walked by Lee, August 2026

Warnings: Rannerdale Knotts: The ridge ends suddenly in a wall of crag and scree falling steeply to the valley by Crummock Water. Keep back from the abrupt end and the edges among the summit knolls, especially in wind or cloud — it's a small fell with a real drop. Grasmoor: The top is broad, grassy and almost featureless, ringed by steep crags and gullies. In mist it is very easy to set off on the wrong bearing and end up above the cliffs or descending a dangerous flank. Take and trust a compass bearing before leaving the summit. Whiteside (Whiteside West Top): The ridge towers above Gasgale Gill on a wall of crag. Keep back from the southern edge, particularly in cloud or wind where the drop comes with little warning.

From the hazard notes for Whiteside (Whiteside West Top) · Grasmoor · Rannerdale Knotts, each with its sources.

Route guide: The Grasmoor Round →

Every line here is a guide, not a guarantee — conditions change. Navigate for yourself and carry a map and compass. How to use this guide.

On the hill: terrain and water on Thirdgill Head Man

Water & shelter on the way up

On the The Grasmoor round: Whiteside, Hopegill Head and Whiteless Pike route:

shelter (opens in new tab) (weather shelter, mapped, not checked; 5 m off the line) Lanthwaite Green Farm (opens in new tab) (58 m from the start, straight line)

On the High Snockrigg, Eel Crag & Lad Hows route:

shelter (opens in new tab) (weather shelter, mapped, not checked; 9 m off the line) shelter (opens in new tab) (weather shelter, mapped, not checked; 52 m off the line) Mountain Road junction (opens in new tab) (11 m from the start, straight line) Bridge Hotel (opens in new tab) (133 m from the start, straight line) The Fish Hotel (opens in new tab) (184 m from the start, straight line) Buttermere Youth Hostel (N bound) (opens in new tab) (209 m from the start, straight line) Syke Farm Campsite (opens in new tab) (355 m from the start, straight line)

On the Newlands Hause to the Coledale Tops route:

shelter (opens in new tab) (weather shelter, mapped, not checked; 27 m off the line)

On the The Grasmoor Round route:

shelter (opens in new tab) (weather shelter, mapped, not checked; 3 m off the line) Lanthwaite Green Farm (opens in new tab) (4 m from the start, straight line)

On-route facilities © OpenStreetMap contributors, per route — an absent marker doesn’t mean none.

About Thirdgill Head Man

Thirdgill Head Man - a small cairn beside the ridge path, looking along the ridge to Whiteless Pike and down to Crummock Water, with Mellbreak across the lake under broken cloud
© Lee McCoy

Our two Grasmoor rounds and our High Snockrigg, Eel Crag & Lad Hows route take it in. It's a worthwhile objective for anyone working through the Birkett list.

Field notes

Sat at the base of Wandope you'll pass through this as you head over to Whiteless Pike. It's a rocky outcrop, nothing significant and probably one that you wouldn't rest at unless you really needed to.

— Lee McCoy, who walked it on 2 of our routes

My Strava hikes over Thirdgill Head Man

1 logged hike pass over this summit:

Data from Strava.

Classifications & hill data

Is Thirdgill Head Man a Wainwright?

Thirdgill Head Man is not a Wainwright. It is on the Birkett list.

Selected lists

734 m
Height
2,408 ft
In feet
NY 1835 1960
Grid ref

This is the summit’s grid reference. If you call from anywhere else, give your own position, not this one.

Lists, height and summit position from the Database of British and Irish Hills; the feet are converted from its metres and the grid reference from that position. How we check →

Places to stay near this fell

We have not stayed at any of them. We take no bookings or affiliate fees. Distances are straight lines from each route start, never walking times. Properties found via OpenStreetMap (opens in new tab).

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